Min & Shell B I still do not understand why you believe that I said that God has everything planned. It makes no sense that I would think or say that because I believe so strongly in freewill. Also why would I make the statement that part of God's plan is to allow history to run its own course. Yes God has certain plans but one thing He does not do is interfer with a persons freewill. Read the Bible and you can see what God's plan (will) is for mankind, there are no hidden secrets, it's layed out plain as day. Geee's come on go back and read the original post by superstarr he's the one that made the statement that God controls ever aspect of a persons life and that it does no good to pray because God's planning can not be changed. I know that he was trying to get a rise out of the christians on this forum. I even challenged him to give me a Bible verse that proved his statement and the one he listed Psalm 139:16 had nothing to do with God planning a persons entire life. Now you show me where I have said that God has a persons life all planned out.
Shell B I still see no contradiction in the quotes you brought up. You need to do better than that.
Shell B I still see no contradiction in the quotes you brought up. You need to do better than that.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
