Purple Rabbit you are correct in saying that Paul believed Jesus return would be in his life time. That was his belief early in his ministry but later in his ministry he understood that was not the truth and he understood that long before his death. Now I have a challenge for you find in the Bible where anyone spoke of a rapture of the church.
Read the book of Matthew there you will find what Jesus said about the end of time and what you want find there is anything about a rapture. Also Paul never wrote about a rapture so this should help narrow down your search IF you decide to take my challenge.
Scott Richens I'll give you this you are clever in the way you twist the words of someone who doesn't agree with you.
Yes God has a divine plan and it requires no action on your part to be included in that plan you do not have to decide anything your birth was sufficient for you to be part of the plan. It is God's will that you would choose the plan of salvation (divine plan) but it's your choice outside of Gods will. Understand so far. Just as parents make plans for their children and have desires for their futures the childern are free to choose the life they want outside of the parents desires it's the way God works with mankind. Now God's ultimate will can not be changed and letting history run its course no matter how much evil or good history will contain is part of God's ultimate will.Yes there are things in history that would be against God's ultimate will and He has stopped them such as Hitler and Stalin trying to destroy the nation of Israel. Your choices,my choices, Min's choice, Purple Rabbits choices, everyones choices has some effect on history and because Gods divine plan includes freewill history is not set in stone. Just because God can see down through the pages of history doesn't mean He has every minute of history planned out what it does mean is that God knows how history is going to play out. So you see it's important (at least for believers) to read and study the Bible so that we can understand what is and what isn't God's ultimate will so we can know how to pray about things God will and will not allow to happen.
Those who choose God's salvation have no desire to be completely independent of God's will for their lives and the only way a christain is going to know His will for their life is through scripture and for Him to reveal His intent for our lives. I'm not making up anything and if you believe I am then go to the Bible read and study it for your self. Finally just because you do not believe in the claim that the God of the Bible is real doesn't make my argument nonsensical who are you to judge my beliefs you do not know anything about God and can not because you do not believe in the claim He's real.
Super Starr my reply to you is the same as Scott Richens so read my reply to him.
Min I've notice you did not bring a full answer to my reply to you. Also if you did believe in God would you want Him to treat you like a puppet and have you live your life without choice. There are many times I wish God would intervene in peoples lives who do harm to others but I know that would be
against His will not to control our lives unwantedly. However I can take some sola[/b]ce in believeing He might lead these evil people to justice in this life.
Read the book of Matthew there you will find what Jesus said about the end of time and what you want find there is anything about a rapture. Also Paul never wrote about a rapture so this should help narrow down your search IF you decide to take my challenge.
Scott Richens I'll give you this you are clever in the way you twist the words of someone who doesn't agree with you.
Yes God has a divine plan and it requires no action on your part to be included in that plan you do not have to decide anything your birth was sufficient for you to be part of the plan. It is God's will that you would choose the plan of salvation (divine plan) but it's your choice outside of Gods will. Understand so far. Just as parents make plans for their children and have desires for their futures the childern are free to choose the life they want outside of the parents desires it's the way God works with mankind. Now God's ultimate will can not be changed and letting history run its course no matter how much evil or good history will contain is part of God's ultimate will.Yes there are things in history that would be against God's ultimate will and He has stopped them such as Hitler and Stalin trying to destroy the nation of Israel. Your choices,my choices, Min's choice, Purple Rabbits choices, everyones choices has some effect on history and because Gods divine plan includes freewill history is not set in stone. Just because God can see down through the pages of history doesn't mean He has every minute of history planned out what it does mean is that God knows how history is going to play out. So you see it's important (at least for believers) to read and study the Bible so that we can understand what is and what isn't God's ultimate will so we can know how to pray about things God will and will not allow to happen.
Those who choose God's salvation have no desire to be completely independent of God's will for their lives and the only way a christain is going to know His will for their life is through scripture and for Him to reveal His intent for our lives. I'm not making up anything and if you believe I am then go to the Bible read and study it for your self. Finally just because you do not believe in the claim that the God of the Bible is real doesn't make my argument nonsensical who are you to judge my beliefs you do not know anything about God and can not because you do not believe in the claim He's real.
Super Starr my reply to you is the same as Scott Richens so read my reply to him.
Min I've notice you did not bring a full answer to my reply to you. Also if you did believe in God would you want Him to treat you like a puppet and have you live your life without choice. There are many times I wish God would intervene in peoples lives who do harm to others but I know that would be
against His will not to control our lives unwantedly. However I can take some sola[/b]ce in believeing He might lead these evil people to justice in this life.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
