(October 9, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Lek Wrote:(October 9, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Jenny A Wrote: That is the question. If god is all loving Lek, why does he instigate and participate in atrocities.
How is it suddenly just if it's god?
Yeah. I saw that video before. The difference is that God didn't just create a bad situation, put us there, then decide to save us from it. He created a good situation, put us there, then we blew it for ourselves.
No according to the Bible he created Adam and Eve and they blew it. Since when is it just to punish people for the crimes of their parents let alone their remote ancestors? Or do you believe that all people commit crimes so heinous that eternal torture is just? Frankly, I don't even believe Stalin or Hitler deserve eternal torment. Eternity is as they say a very long time.
(October 9, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Lek Wrote: He then offered his son to fulfill the justice that we were to receive and he's offering the good situation back to us.
Find me any analogous situation where you would say anything even remotely like sacrificing your own son to get someone else out of prison was a just thing.
(October 9, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Lek Wrote: God created it all and he holds the power over life and death. He can make the rules and the punishment for breaking them.
Precisely. According to you and the Bible he made the rules. So it is just like the video. Hmmm?
(October 9, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Lek Wrote: I don't know his mind. I'm just happy he gave me a second chance and I'm taking it. God's not forcing anybody.
And the U.S. government isn't forcing you to pay taxes, it's just that they'll lock you up if you don't. Right? Except that they will let you out of prison eventually and they probably won't torture you.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.