RE: John Armstrong With A Simple Challenge For Muslims
June 30, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Quote:Common examples of special pleading that I see all the time when religious people argue:
1. My god is real. Yours is just an idol.
2. My scripture is history. Yours is just mythology.
3. My prophets told the truth. Yours lied.
are you saying that muslims do this also?
Quote:So if Allah spoke to Muhammad and cleared it up for him, why not do the same for the Christians. That would have saved 1000+ years of bloodshed and cleared it all up nicely for them, too.
muhammed(pbuh) is the messenger of god to everyone and the Quran contains what god is saying to the christians but everyone have to make his own choice
Quote:Maybe if Jesus would return and tell the Christians in Rome and Constantinople, rather than Allah, it could have worked out a little better. But you ask me to believe that Allah's best plan was to instead speak to some guy several hundred years later in a different land and that was going to solve the problem?
life is a test and it doesnt work like that do you think that if jesus(pbuh) returned and told the people that they are doing a wrong thing they would believe him he did this with the jews and most of them didnt believe him
Quote:They quote the Gospels because these are the only detailed accounts we have of Jesus. They claim that Jesus never claimed to be the Son of God (he did) and that he admonished his followers not to worship him but to instead follow only God (he didn't).
this needs a whole thread as it will take a lot of discussing but i want to correct you we say that son of god means someone close to god(lot of people called son of god in the bible) and that jesus(pbuh) himself never said worship me or i am god(his followers did but he didnt)
Quote:In reality, there was a plethora of different Christianities in the first few centuries, all with conflicting ideas about what Jesus was. None of them bore any resemblance to Islam.
there was a lot of people who was saying that there is no god except Allah and jesus(pbuh) was his messenger these people is considered muslims(islam is not a group name its a state of submissionn to god will)
Quote:By the Muslim story, Jesus hadn't finished flying off into the sky before Paul convinced a large number of his followers that he was a intercessor to God who should be prayed to.
i dont know when paul started misleading people but all i know that he started convincing a lot of kings who therefor started killing the true believers everywhere but a lot of them escaped to different places
Quote:If that's your idea of a "great" prophet, I'd hate to see what you think is a failure.
your measurment of a great prophet depends on how many people believed in him which is really not his responsibility some prophets was sent and no one believed in them but they must deliver the message of god
