John Armstrong With A Simple Challenge For Muslims

[DeistPaladin]

are you saying that muslims do this also?

You don't?

Does this mean you think that all scriptures are accurate and all gods exist? Are you a henotheist?

muhammed(pbuh) is the messenger of god to everyone and the Quran contains what god is saying to the christians but everyone have to make his own choice

So what did Allah think was going to happen?

The Christians start worshiping Jesus. Does he set them straight? No. He lets the religion form and take root. Several hundred years roll by and one day he finally decides to do something about it. Does he speak to a church heirarch or Roman emperor? No. Does he speak to anyone in the area who might have a shred of credibility? No. He goes to another land that has no contact with Rome or Constantinople, speaks to one guy, provides no evidence to convince the Christians and this is Allah's plan?

"Oh pardon me. We thought that being part of the church established by Jesus' apostles and disciples would give us the proper understanding of what Jesus preached. We thought the eye-witness accounts written in the gospels would convey his message. But some guy has come along from a foreign land several hundred years later and announced that Jesus was in fact his forerunner and really we should be following him instead. Of course! It all makes perfect sense! We'll just convert right away..."

life is a test and it doesnt work like that do you think that if jesus(pbuh) returned and told the people that they are doing a wrong thing they would believe him he did this with the jews and most of them didnt believe him

Yeah, that also seemed pretty unbelievable to me too. Jesus is healing the sick, the lame and even the dead. And both the Christians and Muslims say the Jews beheld these miracles and said, "Meh, yeah you and every other street preacher. Hit the bricks, buddy."?

Go to an atheist convention with some of the most die-hard skeptics. Heal Stephen Hawking in front of everyone. Allow him to walk and speak again. Then watch as every atheist converts. The reason we don't believe is because there's no proof.

this needs a whole thread as it will take a lot of discussing but i want to correct you we say that son of god means someone close to god(lot of people called son of god in the bible) and that jesus(pbuh) himself never said worship me or i am god(his followers did but he didnt)

John 4:16

there was a lot of people who was saying that there is no god except Allah and jesus(pbuh) was his messenger these people is considered muslims(islam is not a group name its a state of submissionn to god will)

All of the versions of Christianity involved Jesus as an intercessor with Yahweh, something wholly blasphemous both to Judaism and Islam.

i dont know when paul started misleading people but all i know that he started convincing a lot of kings who therefor started killing the true believers everywhere but a lot of them escaped to different places

Paul supposedly started preaching within a few years of Jesus' crucifixion.

And these kings didn't have that authority. They were subject to Rome, which had a standing policy of tolerating religions provided they didn't involve rebellion against Roman authority.

your measurment of a great prophet depends on how many people believed in him which is really not his responsibility some prophets was sent and no one believed in them but they must deliver the message of god

So all you have to do is show up? How do you measure "greatness" then?

And there are things Jesus failed to do, like write anything down or make things clear to his followers. He also failed to be noticed by anyone outside his little circle (assuming he existed at all). This despite having every advantage of magical powers on loan from God. Negligence.

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