RE: To explain knowledge of God
October 15, 2014 at 10:34 am
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2014 at 10:40 am by Drich.)
(October 15, 2014 at 10:16 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(October 15, 2014 at 10:12 am)Drich Wrote: We have chosen to find God. The choices we have are to that end and that end alone. 'freewill' is a ancient greek construct and not of the bible.
Huh, interesting. So many Christians that I talk to use free will as something that God imbued humans with, and God refuses to compromise that free will by appearing directly and undeniably. What's your stance on humans having God-given free will?
Again, 'Free will' is an ancient greek construct and not mentioned in the bible. The bible itself says the oppsite in the we do not have 'free will.' Rather we are slaves that have been given a choice, that choice is redemption and ultimatly freedom from the ties that bind us as slaves.
In short we have been given one real choice in this life. Your christian friends are correct in why God will not violate this choice by provideing undenyable proof from the outset. Our whole purpose in this life is to be give a span of time to proove to ourselves where our hearts lie. (With God or with sin) This life is a prooving ground. If God gave undenyiable evidence from the on set then self preservation would kick in and people would elect heaven for the wrong reason. As it is only those who want to serve God elect salvation.
(October 15, 2014 at 10:31 am)Crossless1 Wrote:Without a doubt I have no arguement that people who experience the unexplain so do. Why? Because God is not the only 'being' who can interact with us from that plain of existance.(October 15, 2014 at 10:12 am)Drich Wrote:
Nice dodge. However, the question stands. Are those countless people throughout history who have 'experienced' some deity other than Yahweh wrong? Deluded by Satan? Did they really experience your god and just didn't know it? And how would one determine which of these is the correct answer -- especially in cases of ancient people who supposedly experienced the divine before A/S/K was even formulated?
From a Christian POV God or the Devil has this ablity. Satan is a deceiver by nature. Satan can claim just about anything. for someone who does not know any better, what other choice do they have but believe whatever the supernature tells them?
This goes back to F/F's question on 'free will,' and why God does not interveen before we make our choice as to whether or not we want to spend eternity with Him.
Satan has no biblically identified code he works by.