RE: To explain knowledge of God
October 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2014 at 1:22 pm by Drich.)
(October 15, 2014 at 10:55 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Wait, so gawd wants to hide and us to find him without even knowing he exists? Is he a freakin 3year old?So are you unsure whether or not 3 year olds exist?
How about God wants you to proove to yourself that you would indeed do anything to looked upon by him in an approving manner. So that your 'salvation' is less about what God can do for you, and more about what you have been created to do for God.
What most of you dont seem to understand is God is not our servant or a genie that grants wishes. We have been created to serve Him. We have been given this life so as to sift out those who do and those who do not want to serve.
Quote:@Drich Also the bible itself has claims of several instances where gawd had tried to prove himself.Like where?
Quote:So since you believe he won't try to prove himself in order to judge our hearts,Not what I said. I said God does not typically provide what is needed for someone who does not want to believe in God the proof needed to establish and maintain belief. (there are always exceptions to every rule) Once one does believe God reveals has no problem providing a follower everything needed to establish and maintain belief.[/quote]
Quote: so were those supposed proofs and miracles were created by the devil? Hmm, so are you sure that the devil didn't create the bible to lure away the followers of the true supreme being, Odin, or Krishna, or Allah, or .....Who in the bible did God do these miricals for? (Believers or potential followers)
(October 15, 2014 at 12:16 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So, Muslims and Hindus aren't at fault for being deceived, since they're simply listening to the supernatural (Satan) that is causing their spiritual experience. Does that mean that Muslims and Hindus are getting salvation as well, since it's none of their own fault they haven't sought jesus as that choice was never presented to them? Or does God punish those who had no choice to begin with, as well?Not all are called by God to worship. What God does with them is completely upto Him. Maybe the being the repersented thems selves as the many hindu gods or as allah has plans for them.
In truth, What does it matter? they are activly seeking and worshiping the gods of thier choice.
(October 15, 2014 at 12:34 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Yeah. Can't wait to see the justification of sending Muslims to hell if Satan deceived them all, which is apparently not their fault. Satan too powerful for widdle baby God?
No, justification. If person 'A' worship's god 'b' then he is subject to the power and protection that god has to offer. If that God is real, then he is in good shape. If he is not then he is subject to the wrath or mercy of the real God.
so, What the pro'lem is?
This life is our prooving ground. we have been given this measure of time to find God and decide whether or not to worship Him. being born into a religion does not mean one is destined to die as a member of that religion. If one wants to find God then he will test what he knows and will move on till he finds God.