RE: To explain knowledge of God
October 15, 2014 at 1:59 pm
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2014 at 2:17 pm by Drich.)
(October 15, 2014 at 12:55 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: A/S/K, Atheists Seek Knowledge!!!
The atheists are asking, while religion simply pretends to have an answer, so it fails by it's own standards.
Atheist only ask questions that confirms their position. Look at 'fixing the bible' thread. Most of you still believe that Nazi Germany/Hitler was a christian state, despite the truth of History.
You guys like to toute yourselves as thinkers. When in reality you only think what people like dawkins tells you to think. That is why so many of you can not discuss a topic when it takes an unexpected turn like the 'fixing the bible' thread did.
(October 15, 2014 at 12:55 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(October 15, 2014 at 12:47 pm)Drich Wrote: Your speaking in a past tense, therefore you did not 'do it right.'
I have spoken to hundreds of you personally (over the years and various websites) on what you have done specifically, not one of you has A/S/K'ed as outlined in luke 11. Not once. You all believe it to be about sincerity or checking off items on a check list. Therefore your efforts always have a start point and an end. This method disqualifies you each and every time.
... which is just a wordy way of begging the question.
it a simple way of pointing out that you did not follow instructions as provided.
what is the difference between baking a cake and a loaf of bread? The ingredience are basically the same, flour, milk eggs, butter, baking soda etc.. so why when following the directions of bread, do I not come out with cake?
Does this example begg the question in your opinion? If it does then maybe you should look up the term you are misusing, before I get the pleasure of doing it for you.
(October 15, 2014 at 1:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(October 15, 2014 at 10:34 am)Drich Wrote: Again, 'Free will' is an ancient greek construct and not mentioned in the bible. The bible itself says the oppsite in the we do not have 'free will.' Rather we are slaves that have been given a choice, that choice is redemption and ultimatly freedom from the ties that bind us as slaves.
In short we have been given one real choice in this life. Your christian friends are correct in why God will not violate this choice by provideing undenyable proof from the outset. Our whole purpose in this life is to be give a span of time to proove to ourselves where our hearts lie. (With God or with sin) This life is a prooving ground. If God gave undenyiable evidence from the on set then self preservation would kick in and people would elect heaven for the wrong reason. As it is only those who want to serve God elect salvation.
Am I reading this right? We need to be "willing slaves" in your interpretation!
Well that idea can fuck off.
...and that is what this life is all about. Making the choice you just made... (Or rather the sum total of your life in making that choice.)
So when you stand in judgement before God, you cant say 'well if given the chance I would serve you.'
Again Heaven/God is not a place where He serves you. You are to serve Him. Granted some will have better jobs than others but in the end it will still be an existance of service.
This is why satan rebelled and took 1/3 of heaven with him, because they like you did not want to serve.
(October 15, 2014 at 1:07 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Submit or go to hell? that's too Islamic for my taste
(October 15, 2014 at 1:26 pm)LostLocke Wrote:(October 15, 2014 at 10:12 am)Drich Wrote: God is not a 'feeling'. When I say direction I mean direction. http://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html When I say protection I mean literal protection:http://atheistforums.org/thread-11671.html post 135 God/The Holy Spirit Is or can be an real time interactive part of your life. To the point there is not questions, or need or interpertation.The same can be said about those who have 'experienced' other deities.
Unless you're making the claim that only the followers of Jehovah have claimed to have truly experienced their god.
that is an atheist myth. Most of you believe that all religions are basically the same. Christianity is unique in that it is the only one where God interacts with His followers as apart of day to day life.
No other religion has their God interact with the common man. Only Prophets and emisarries have that right even in OT judisim.
I am not saying common people of 'other religions' do not claim this, I am saying no other religion allows for this type of interaction in their holy books between thier various gods and the common man.