RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 18, 2014 at 3:05 am
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2014 at 3:09 am by Aractus.)
(October 18, 2014 at 12:31 am)Vivalarevolution Wrote: Well I'm not reading all 19 pages of replies but I will try to answer your question.If you really believe that the "Orthodox church teachings" haven't changed since day dot then I'll sell you the holy grail my friend.
We do not think the bible is entirely true. (Atleast us non- protestants) Far from it. We believe that it just narrates through mythology and real events how man came to understand god and how mankinds behaviour evolved. First the behavior was perfect, then it degraded to a level where telling humans the importance of loving your neighbour just wasn't understandable. (This was before Romans gathered to see lions eat prisoners)
In a world where Child sacrifice and the likes were prevalent, man had no sense to treat everyone with respect. The world was barbaric, and to keep a country (Israel) pure and alive till the messiah arrived, it was necessary for rules to be set up so that they wouldn't do anything wrong.
When the world's morality improved and people were able to understand Jesus' teachings of love and compassion (still note that this was while Romans gathered to see lions eat prisoners) god sent Jesus to explain it all to them.
Apart from that there are numerous prophecies in the bible which foretell the coming of Jesus. The fall of Tyre is one. The exile of the 10 tribes is another (It happened over 200 years) Read Isaiah and Eziekel
We don't believe in the Adam and eve thing and the talking donkey and all. They are just stories to explain the situation of man at that particular point of time.
It's sad how such rigid beliefs tend to alienate people from Christianity
Leaving aside the contradictions in your post, simply explain Joshua 10 to me, followed by how the Exodus happened at a time when Egypt can be shown to be in complete control of the Canaan land?
Why does the Orthodox church read from the LXX instead of the Masoretic Text? Why? Because your beliefs about the MT were based on a primitive understanding that has since been disproved.
Especially since you don't even use the whole LXX as the basis of your scripture, nor the LXX book of Daniel (which FYI only exists now in one or maybe two very late manuscripts). You read a text that is essentially copied from the fifth column of the Hexapla because you think it dates back to before Christ when it can be shown that it doesn't. It doesn't even exist in whole as a single ancient manuscript. Every single ancient manuscript had at least some books swapped out - at least the Leningrad Codex is complete.
(October 18, 2014 at 2:51 am)Minimalist Wrote: Um, bullshit. There it is! 4th largest city in Lebanon.Kind of like how they were given Canaan for an eternity:
Genesis 17:8
"And I will give to thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land in which thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke