(October 20, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Jenny A Wrote: It's also how people react to male and female aggression:There is a point I would like to throw in there. Negotiating is traditionally a skill taught from father to son. Now I read the article, but I am a bit skeptical of how she paints the study as she doesn't cite and deals in absolutes. Now getting to my point negotiation is a skill, more often taught to men then women and becoming less taught all together. I actually think it's wrong to make a emotional judgement based on someones gender, and fucking moronic to treat them differently in negotiations on that fact.
I am keenly aware that women who negotiate are often seen negatively in a way men are not.
Quote:http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arch...te/249368/Men who raise their voices are respected? Generally I call them assholes, and think the same of women who do it. Maybe I'm weird. As for the bit about women who lay people off being veiwed as worse, that is probably true, as I have had way more jobs then someone my age should've had and I can honestly say that from personal experience, 2 of the 3 worst managers I've had were women. On the surface that seems sexist, but delve deeper and look the behaviour of them and it has nothing to do with gender in my case. I can more into more detail if you ask, but I want to cut it short for brevity's sake.
Similarly, my experience in law offices is that men who raise their voices are respected and women who do are seen as hysterical. Woman who lay people off are also viewed more harshly than men who perform the same action. (As you might of noticed from these forums I can be a tad aggressive now and then.)
Quote:Note, that like Megan McArdle in the linked article, I'm not making any demands about laws or regulations or telling you all you're sexist pigs, just observing that the same action can garner different reactions depending on the sex of the actor.
On that we can agree. And there are numerous examples. Like when a man speaks out at a feminist convention. (Yes I'm being facetious)
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
