(October 21, 2014 at 11:48 am)bennyboy Wrote:These options make little sense because the question is malformed. Your effectively trying to answer what happened before time and space existed.(October 21, 2014 at 9:46 am)TreeSapNest Wrote: Because a thinking, acting nothingness is nonsensical?I think the universe seems to be largely nonsensical. I mean, it seems either to have always existed, or to have magically been created by something which always existed, or to be part of a chain of infinite co-existence; fuck-- none of those options makes any sense.
(October 21, 2014 at 11:48 am)bennyboy Wrote: But I do know that it includes consiousness, and so without knowing absolutely why any chain of events occurs, one of the possibilities (even if slim) is that consciousness is injected somewhere along that chain.The word "injected" suggest it came from somewhere else. Consiousness could of arisen naturally.
(October 21, 2014 at 11:48 am)bennyboy Wrote: It depends how you look at it. On the one hand, it seems of all the things we know about, only a very small % of "stuff" involves anything we'd call thinking. On the other hand, 100% of that "stuff" is known to us only through a thinking mind-- absolutely nothing is known to exist that we are not conscious of. And 100% is a statistic worth carefully considering when drawing philosophical inferences.
"100% of the stuff in known to us", I wouldn't be so sure about that. For a long time people didn't know the Earth was spherical, Europeans didn't know there about the Americas, scientist didn't know about neutrinos, etc... There are plenty of mysteries left. Plus, all the optical illusions must really mess with our 100% knowledge.
"absolutely nothing is known to exist that we are not conscious of." So if a comet hits my car at midnight, and noone was around to be conscious of it. Does that mean my car was never hit by a comet? When I see my car in the morning, is my car damaged from the comet or not?
