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A few questions
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RE: A few questions
(October 19, 2014 at 2:16 pm)Vivalarevolution Wrote: If you don't mind I have a few questions. I'm orthodox Christian btw

Why is the universe the way it is? Brilliant and beautiful?
Why does it have to be in order? Why can't it be chaotic? Why can't the speed of light change? Why is gravity between two bodies proportional to product of the masses? Why not anything else? (Note inversely proportional equation doesn't count). Why can't the laws of thermodynamics be changed? Why are laws the way they are?

why is the energy in the universe constant? Why can't it be destroyed or created

why is heat transfer done from warm regions to cold regions and not the other way around

In short, why does the universe need to conform to the laws? Doesn't the fact that the laws can't be changed or substituted indicate there could be a higher power that set it all in place?
Hypothetically, the universe could very well be chaotic. But it's not

I'll check out your answers and reply tomorrow

Also notice, the actions and thinking of living things are the only things without law ( free will)

You do realize that if the actual case in each of your questions was the reverse, it would be just as mysterious why they are the other way. Why is the universe dull and ugly? Why does chaos prevail over order? Why can't the speed of light stop changing? Why isn't gravity proportionate to mass? Why isn't there a consistent law for thermodynamics?

If anything, such a universe would be LESS explicable than the one we find ourselves in. As though a lower power were intervening to keep it random.

You're equivocating between the kinds of laws that come from people and the kinds of laws people discover. A natural law is merely a mathematical description of a part of the universe that acts consistently. They don't indicate anything but that there are parts of the universe that act consistently in a way that can be mathematically described...so far.

If it's a hypothesis, it can be tested. What's the test for determining if the universe could be more chaotic? It's getting more chaotic, does that count? Right now it's a mix of order and chaos, and the laws of thermodynamics you mentioned are leading it to heat death. If this goes on (if the laws stay consistent) the universe will end as an ever-expanding and thinning cloud of photons and virtual particles barely distinguishable from nothing at all in which human survival will be impossible. If there were a higher power, it could alter the laws to avert that fate, couldn't it? And in this state of maximal disorder, isn't it more consistent than ever? It will wind up being just space, time, photons, and virtual particles instead of all the messy stars and asteroids and living things that clutter it now.

Why would a universe have unchanging laws of nature if there was a being that could change them?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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A few questions - by Vivalarevolution - October 19, 2014 at 2:16 pm
RE: A few questions - by The Valkyrie - October 19, 2014 at 2:26 pm
RE: A few questions - by Vivalarevolution - October 19, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 19, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: A few questions - by Vivalarevolution - October 19, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: A few questions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 19, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: A few questions - by genkaus - October 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 19, 2014 at 5:58 pm
RE: A few questions - by The Valkyrie - October 19, 2014 at 6:00 pm
RE: A few questions - by Chas - October 19, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: A few questions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 19, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: A few questions - by genkaus - October 19, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: A few questions - by pocaracas - October 19, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: A few questions - by Exian - October 19, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: A few questions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: A few questions - by Jenny A - October 19, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: A few questions - by Vivalarevolution - October 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: A few questions - by genkaus - October 19, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: A few questions - by Jenny A - October 19, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: A few questions - by Mister Agenda - October 21, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 21, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: A few questions - by TreeSapNest - October 22, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 22, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 19, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: A few questions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 19, 2014 at 4:23 pm
RE: A few questions - by Chas - October 19, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: A few questions - by JesusHChrist - October 19, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: A few questions - by The Valkyrie - October 19, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 19, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: A few questions - by The Valkyrie - October 19, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: A few questions - by Alex K - October 19, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: A few questions - by The Valkyrie - October 19, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: A few questions - by Vivalarevolution - October 19, 2014 at 11:28 pm
RE: A few questions - by genkaus - October 19, 2014 at 11:59 pm
RE: A few questions - by Vivalarevolution - October 20, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: A few questions - by Surgenator - October 20, 2014 at 2:14 am
RE: A few questions - by Ben Davis - October 20, 2014 at 5:59 am
RE: A few questions - by Vivalarevolution - October 20, 2014 at 6:33 am
RE: A few questions - by Surgenator - October 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 20, 2014 at 6:08 am
RE: A few questions - by genkaus - October 20, 2014 at 12:38 pm
RE: A few questions - by Mister Agenda - October 21, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: A few questions - by Alex K - October 20, 2014 at 6:23 am
RE: A few questions - by Chas - October 20, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 20, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: A few questions - by JesusHChrist - October 20, 2014 at 1:11 am
RE: A few questions - by Lemonvariable72 - October 20, 2014 at 2:31 am
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 20, 2014 at 9:06 am
RE: A few questions - by Alex K - October 20, 2014 at 9:25 am
RE: A few questions - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 21, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 21, 2014 at 9:39 am
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 20, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 20, 2014 at 11:40 am
RE: A few questions - by TreeSapNest - October 20, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 21, 2014 at 5:27 am
RE: A few questions - by TreeSapNest - October 21, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: A few questions - by bennyboy - October 21, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: A few questions - by Surgenator - October 21, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: A few questions - by TreeSapNest - October 21, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: A few questions - by Chas - October 21, 2014 at 3:35 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 21, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: A few questions - by Aoi Magi - October 21, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 21, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: A few questions - by Mister Agenda - October 21, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: A few questions - by Cyberman - October 21, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: A few questions - by downbeatplumb - October 21, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: A few questions - by TreeSapNest - October 23, 2014 at 10:53 am

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