To explain knowledge of God

[Jenny A]

When I say atheist are men of blind faith, I am not speaking to the expenditure of faith concerning God. I am speaking of faith in facts that subsequently replaces God. Faith that the facts are correct, faith that the interpretation of facts are correct, and the big one faith that somehow 'science' and God can not coexist.

It's not that the facts "replace" god, it's that there are no facts to support god. It isn't god or science, that is a false dichotomy. It's blind faith of god, or no blind faith in god. I can't prove god doesn't exist and I don't have faith that he doesn't. I just have no reason to believe he does.

So we will find anything we are seeking if we look desperately enough? Well, if we seek internally, I agree with you.

if we seek desperately enought we will find anything we set out to find. 'Science' has proven this over and over again.

But I don't think we should base our lives or much of anything else on what we find that way, because it's merely a reflection of what we want, not what is. And if we start thinking that we have a monopoly on the truth based on what we find inside, we are in serious moral danger.

who says we aren't already there? Look at abortion take away the clinical terms and look at what is left. It is soceity allowing the destruction of unwanted babies... We justify this because we sought out clinical terms that we use to disassociate ourselves and dehumanize the victims so we can justify what we are actually doing.

The next is gay marriage. Soceity has taken the first covenant God made between man woman and Himself and united this holy act with an act deemed sinful in scripture. If gay people wanted to have the same right why not settle for the civil or state sanctioned Union? Why does soceity insist on taking the ceremony of marriage from the church and mock it's very core meanings?

We haven't reached abortion clinics and gay marriage (two good things in my view) because of ASK. We've reasoned out those moral decision through public debate.

ASK is not unique to the bible or God. It is simple how man goes about obtaining what he really wants that is not easily found. Why else did jesus frame this in a parable that we could relate to? Look at the setting again the neighbor wanted a basic need. That was to feed his guests. What did he do to feed his guests? He ASK'ed for bread. Why? Because this is our goto when we desperately want something not easily obtainable. All jesus is saying here is put forth the same effort as you would anything else that might be difficult at first to get.

No, it's a method of determining what a man wants to be true and imaging that to be the case.

As opposed to what the nice young men from the Mormon church tell me? There's nothing to choose between you. You're all your own special brand of crazy.

again if you are looking to buy what the Mormons are selling then buy it from them because you will not find it with me.

They sell what most white breads think of when they think Of God, it again is just not the God of the bible.

Just because you can make yourself believe sometime doesn't make it true. That works both ways. From what you just said, ASK does not show whether god exists only that you can believe in him if you really really want to. That's hardly news. Nor is believing just because you want to a good idea.