RE: To explain knowledge of God
October 23, 2014 at 9:10 am
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2014 at 9:59 am by Drich.)
(October 22, 2014 at 5:01 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
I have been tring to figure out what this picture says for two days... I dont get it.
(October 22, 2014 at 9:07 pm)Jenny A Wrote: What does it even mean to yield to science?To surrender yourself/Your thought processes to whatever is labled 'science' without question.
Quote: I use and depend upon scientific discoveries. So does anyone living in an even remotely industrialized part of the world.This statement is the perfect example of yeilding to science.. In that you have lumped everything into one catagory, when infact there should be several different catagories. Scientific discoveries is one catagory, but not everything that can be considered 'scientific' is indeed as trust worthy as the principles we literally have built the mordern age off of.
Quote:But I wouldn't equate using and yielding to. Scientific laws I can't help yielding to. That's why this is such a grand description of trying the impossible:That's not true. Have you 'went green?' why?
Quote:I recognized the authority of the state but not as matter of blind faith. There are times when defiance is a good idea.Indeed but what I am talking about is not defiance. I am talking about 1thess 5:21 Question ALL Things and hold on to what is Good!
That means dont just question the questionable it also means to question the foundational. To question the very principles we have built our lives on. An example of this is what I did when I researched solar output and found information as to the reason why the climbate changes, and not 'green house gasses.' Yet at the same time the end goal of getting humanity off of the dependance of foreign oil, is something we need to do, if not for the enviroment for the plain and simple fact we can leave that place and them go back to cutting each other's heads off.
So why is it important to make the distinction in the true source of global warming and what 'science/al gore' told us if the net result is the same? Control over one's own mind and one's own thought processes. Not yeilding to popular science just because the rest of the flock is following it. To not be maniuplated in how and what i think or how to live my life.
Quote:ASK as you propose it involves asking yourself what you want and seeking confirmation of it internally.That's not true at all. That's a strawman all of you keep returning to, and I keep telling you that God is the other half of that process. One can not honestly hold on to what God has stripped away. Again that is why so many of you are atheist. God answered your prayers by taking your empty religious beliefs from you.
Quote: Repeatedly asking the public and doing so with reasons, isn't the least bit similar. Comparing ASK to public protest is like comparing masturbation to sex with someone else.while the details of how ejaculation is obtained varies, the net result is the same.
The experience in how one A/S/K does not change the fact that one asks for something seeks it out and then continues till he gets it.
(October 22, 2014 at 1:49 pm)Drich Wrote: As with the case of science if the truth is parramount then even if a false hypothsis/god is initially adopted, it's testing/Trials will eventually reveal itself. Then it is up to the indivisual to either ignore the truth or start his/her search over again. That is why knocking is so important. Because we are start out wrong, and it will take a few attempts before we Find the God of the Bible.
Quote:Uh huh? Tell me about this testing the hypothesis part, because I sure don't see it. What would falsify your belief in god?
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Really?
Christ Himself uses the parable of the wise and foolish builders
(Take the time to read the story)
luke 6:
46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was founded on the rock.[h] 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it fell.[i] And the ruin of that house was great.”
In the story the 'house Christ is refering to is your faith is your belief in God and who you define God to be.
Now the foundation is Jesus or rather an accurate picture of Jesus meaning who He was, what He did and why. Now if you ASK with a bad picture of Christ/God when God sends the rains (usally at our request/when we ask for proof of Him or a closer relationship) Your faith will fail, meaning God takes away your orginal understanding of Him so you can build a new/accurate one. That is why so many of you are here as Atheist.. (coupled with a touch of pride.) In that it was your belief that you had the 'fullest most complete' understanding of God there is and because you put in what you thought to be a 'all in' effort and received nothing, you concluded that God can not exist because you did not find Him in all your best efforts first time out the gate. (That's the pride part, the assumption that God is going to rush in and chase after you.)
So in short God 'falsifies' anyone's effort to find Him, by sending the trials of life (Like Cancer) Now if one goes through said trial and is fortified in their beliefs, then it is likely they had help from who it is they choose to worship.. Whether that is the God of the bible or not will depend on how far the help they received is from scripture.
Quote:Bingo, it is a one sided endeavor. There is no evidence it isn't. That Mormons and others also think it isn't a one sided endeavor and yet get different results is evidence that it is one sided.Again at the end of A/S/K as out lined by Luke 11 is One on One time with the Holy Spirit/God. What better proof of God is there than God Himself?