(October 26, 2014 at 4:29 pm)Christian Wrote:(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The bible is the claim not the evidence.
Or in other words.
You can't say "this book is true because it says it is"
See this is the problem. You can make claims, but we Christians cannot. I made a claim, the onus is on me to prove it now. Your statement above is making accusations without letting myself prove my claim.
Let's get on with the debate!
We atheists usually don't claim an absolute. That's why I cal myself an agnostic. I don't believe in a god, but I would never claim, I can prove the absence of a god.
Since there's no evidence whatsoever for a god existing, I don't believe. But you claim to have the evidence and base it only on a single book or personal experience that can't be replicated. By the same token you could claim to have been abducted by aliens. There is no solid proof and disbelieve is justified.
So if you're the one making the claim, you have the burden of proof.