RE: Q about arguments for God's existence.
October 27, 2014 at 8:33 am
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2014 at 8:34 am by Mudhammam.)
(October 27, 2014 at 8:22 am)abaris Wrote: Josephus, as I mentioned earlier, is a known forgery. And that's the one and only passage where an actual person named Jesus is mentioned.There are two references to Jesus in Josephus. The longer one was undoubtedly tampered with but there's good reason to think it contains original information. Granted, Josephus came after the Gospels, but at least it demonstrates that relatively early on Jesus was viewed as a historical person.
Quote:And all the other authors only talk about a group called christians, not a person.That miracles occurred and that Jesus' followers believed he demonstrated divinity in some way are two separate issues.
But that aside. It doesn't matter, if Jesus as a person existed. Vicki Q claimed It is absolutely clear that Jesus contemporaries strongly believed that he did things for which there was and there remains no explanation within current understanding. That is untrue. There are no accounts outside the gospels for anything miraculous happening.
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