(October 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)trmof Wrote:(October 27, 2014 at 4:43 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Christians also say other gods do not exist without an iota of proof.
Without proof that they can show you, you mean. That does not mean God has not provided sufficient proof to them. I would fall into that category. God has proven his existence to me in a way which I can not adequately describe to another person, a way which is metaphysical, transcendent, and glorious beyond words, and it should be no surprise that I wish others to experience the same thing. If you choose not to believe me then that is fine, but I would hope that you would believe my intentions are pure.
(October 27, 2014 at 4:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No. The question as worded indicates that you don't understand what positive atheism actually is (I've never before heard the term 'hard atheism').
An atheist, as such, is one who lacks all belief in all gods, nothing more or less. It is not an insistence that gods cannot exist. Rather, it is a statement about the lack of belief of a particular individual. One doesn't need to be metaphysically certain that gods don't exist in order to be a positive atheist - all that is needed is to lack the belief that they do exist.
And for what it's worth, 'man cannot know what he doesn't know' applies perfectly well to theists. By way of example, you don't know that God exists, you simply believe that he does, which isn't the same thing at all.
Boru
Firstly, your "Religious Views" are: Anti-theist, which would imply that you would be against a god even if you knew for sure that it existed.
Second, you don't understand the terms involved. If you are willing to concede that a god or gods could possibly exist, then you are an agnostic atheist. If you consider it a fact that no such thing does or can exist, then you are a hard atheist or gnostic atheist.
Yet again, you miss the point. My religious views are 'anti-theist-, yes. But that doesn't mean what you seem to think. I'm anti-theist, which has nothing to do with whether or not gods exist.
Again, you're misusing the term 'athiest' - it isn't about certainty, it is about lack of belief.
Boru
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