RE: Your stance on Hard Atheism
October 29, 2014 at 4:34 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2014 at 4:44 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(October 29, 2014 at 4:15 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: I'm saying it's too goddamn specific. Especially here. To me it's like starting a scientific article on the origins of life with the text: 'well, we can't be sure about anything, after all god or the devil could be tricking us by leaving fake fossils all over the place, but we believe we found out etc.'
I'm pretty sure that there are scientific articles on the origin of life that start with something along the lines of 'we can't be certain about exactly how life started'.
(October 29, 2014 at 4:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Fascinated with the stance, and the justification for it. From my understanding of it from those I have encountered so far, I should say, I understand it to be irrational.
Likewise people call my theism irrational, but that is from a position of demonstrable ignorance. What I am ignorant of, I must defer judgement on.
Are you an agnostic theist or a gnostic theist?
(October 29, 2014 at 4:29 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote:(October 29, 2014 at 3:55 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: And what do you say to someone who asks you how you know you're not a brain in a jar?
I'd say I don't care and I'm certainly not going to adopt a special label to signify I do. In a way I think the usage of the distinction agnostic/gnostic is a false dichotomy.
Would you reconsider if you frequented a forum where the possibility of our being brains in jars is one of the main topics of discussion? I think I might like a special label that shorthands my position in that situation if it was me.
(October 29, 2014 at 4:29 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: I'm a bit swamped now and can't really go into this any further right now, I'm thinking of making a proper thread about this. Would that be interesting?
A new thread would probably be both interesting and painful, judging from similar threads in the past, but I'm game. You've got nothing but my respect, btw, despite your irritation with how I label my position.

I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.