Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 18, 2025, 4:01 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
#41
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
(July 6, 2010 at 2:39 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote:
Quote:What I asked about was whether you agree with the punishments your god assigns to the the behaviours he considers to be sins? Is an eternity of hell a just punishment for mild disobedience that causes no real harm to others, like not praying?
eternity for hell is the punishment of denying god existance or for worshiping anything rather than him like pagans or humans
about the punishments to behaviour god consider as a sin i except them as long as i can choose and i have the control over myself.
I already know that you accept them. Do you think that the punishments fit the crimes? What harm is caused by not praying, unless your god is so weak that his feelings get hurt without constant prayers? Are god's hurt feelings for something so small deserving of the non-praying person being punished forever?

Quote:
Quote:Do you feel scared at the thought of looking at your personal opinions of god's behaviour and his orders to you? You believe he can read your mind so I don't blame you if you are scared.
lol it doesnt work like this the problem here is that you are talking about god like he is someone like us.i dont see it like this
If he is so different than us that he thinks it's ok to cause suffering over his petty hurt feelings (I thought he was supposed to be better than us!), then maybe he does not know how to truly love his creations. He must be so different than us that our bad human emotions of love and kindness don't matter. He likes to cause suffering, he even says the pain he causes is the right way of how things should be. You have been shown now many times all the suffering he causes. It's a very good thing someone like that is not real. He does not have your best interests at heart, only his own, proven by his demand for lots of displaying how much you worship him and how much you think he's better than everyone.

So, if his personality is so shitty, is he really a god? I know you justify it with statements that we cannot know why god does what he does, and that we should accept it and consider it to be good just because god told us it's good, but is it good? If it's not so perfectly good the way a god must be, then maybe you are following a false religion. I don't know of any which are not false. Smile You might need to come to your own new conclusion if you really do believe there must have been a creator god, since none of the existing messages about what god is have been perfect so far, from any religion so far.

Quote:god is the creator of everything he owns you and owns every little thing in this world and he chose us to be the once honored to decide wether to worship him or not and we belong to him. whatever the rules he put for us wether you like it or not it will apply to you
saying that the punishment is not fair means that you want to do the wrong thing and not being punished for it even if you knew the result before you do it which i really dont understand
You can't be expected to follow an order under threat if you don't already believe that the threatener (god) is real BEFORE you hear the threat from their spokeperson (human muslim). Unless he is very stupid and flawed, your god cannot seriously expect obedience until a person FIRST believes he and his orders/punishments are real.

There are a ton of unanswered questions from some earlier posts here. I am still curious as to your answers. Not other stuff instead of answers please, just answers to the actual questions would be nice.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam - by Scented Nectar - July 6, 2010 at 3:27 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  [Quranic Reflection]: What should Muslims do when the verses of God are made fun of? WinterHold 37 9179 September 9, 2020 at 5:28 pm
Last Post: Abaddon_ire
  One of the reasons we need religion. Mystic 18 6476 January 6, 2020 at 7:29 am
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism Ashendant 16 9476 December 20, 2019 at 1:59 pm
Last Post: Deesse23
  Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature) Sogni921 34 6712 December 6, 2019 at 7:49 am
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  To clear up that Islam is not pedophilia and chrisitanity is according to a guy here Smain 6 1410 June 26, 2018 at 9:20 am
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  Converted2Islam on YouTube shares his reasons for apostatizing ReptilianPeon 10 3357 July 17, 2016 at 1:04 pm
Last Post: robvalue
  Does Islam Need A Reformation (supossedly a debate but not really) ReptilianPeon 23 5297 March 23, 2016 at 1:41 pm
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  Douglas Murray: Islam is not a peaceful religion mralstoner 3 1888 December 30, 2015 at 1:45 pm
Last Post: Mystic
  IS: "Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting" Napoléon 11 6583 May 15, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Last Post: Hatshepsut
  ISIS is not True Islam! It's Not! JesusHChrist 33 10221 March 3, 2015 at 2:24 pm
Last Post: comet



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)