RE: Judgement day defense strageity.
November 3, 2014 at 9:48 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2014 at 10:03 am by Drich.)
(November 1, 2014 at 8:54 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Based on the Abrahamic rules, I know for a fact I'm going to heaven.
According to the mythology and the rules derived therefrom, I am a sinner. I have committed the one unforgivable sin, denial of the holy spirit etc. In fact I make a point of committing it every day. Thus, by the rules of this game, there is no escaping eternal postmortem punishment for me. The absolute worst punishment that the Abrahamic god can possibly inflict upon me as an atheist would be to make me spend my eternity in its presence. Thus, I am destined for heaven. And may Ceiling Cat have mercy on what apparently passes for my soul.
Rest assured that God is merciful, in that you will not have to spend an eternity in 'Heaven' in service.
(November 1, 2014 at 9:41 am)Rhythm Wrote: How strange that in such a narrowly focused exemption - you just happen to fall in the exempt group that would otherwise seem to allow for a great many more people to be under the tent of the divine.That's just it it does not just happen.. I have journied a long way to find myself where I am, with a long road ahead.
Quote:Attonement is not required for one to be christian.B/C/V???
Quote: One can imagine that there are believing christians who will indeed -not- be saved because, for example, they live in a state of perpetual and unrepentent sinfulness. They believe, but they do not commit. Just as easily it can be and is said that all will recieve such attonement by belief, regardless of any other circumstance. I don't think it has any effect on the exemption offered whatsoever.Ah, so you don't have Book Chapter and Verse to support your version of salvation, just the fact that 'you don't think.'
Quote:For all I know (and all you know)..the details of the exemption and attonement are what you are doing wrong in the first place - and would be covered by whatever exemption may exist which you have miscommunicated to me(or have had miscommunicated to you), as a mouthpeice of the almighty.That could be... If we were not having a direct conversation about the values/rules concerning the attonement process (plan of salvation) of the God of the Bible. All anyone need do is open the bible and read.
Quote:There are, of course, faiths that do not deny the deity of christ (it may even be central to their faith), but would not, with any likelihood......be called "christian" -by you-.Deity and Teachings of Christ They must go hand in Hand.. fore "Even the demons believe and tremble, yet will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven.."
Other wise know your right.. There are those who say the Jesus is the son of God, but they also say the elect members of that faith are also the sons of God of the same caliber that Christ Himself was... That God was at one time just some shlub who was faithful to his God and was given a world to rule over and as such they all will eventually be like God.
The problem? Jesus did not teach that. He kinda claim He was the only son of God, and that salvation could only infact happen through Him.
Quote: I assume that their non-christian worship counts, what with recognizing the divinity of christ and simply worshiping the wrong way, eh (not that we aren't well on our way to showing how transparently vacuous this exemption actually is by piling on condition after condition...as we will most certainly be doing - I just wanted to lend you my shovel)?In the end it is up to Christ to make that judgement. This judgement will be based on what those people were given to work with. God/Christ is not a fool, and what ever He decides I will stand behind even if a given person is not up to my personal standard.