(November 17, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I doubt you'd find an atheist here who, when presented with a clear, unambiguous divinely inspired spiritual experience, for which no more likely explanation can be found, would actually reject it. Disagreement is not rejection, Chad; atheism simply disagrees with the claim that currently observed spiritual experiences are divine, mostly owing to their vague and subjective nature. But that disagreement withers and dies in the face of a divine experience that has all of those mitigating circumstances stripped away. The absolute best you could say, if you really wanted to push your case as strongly as you could, is that atheism is a rejection of all currently claimed spiritual experiences as divine, and even that's not entirely true as this "rejection" would also vanish if new evidence came to light that proved a past spiritual experience to be divine.
Totally agree here. Spiritual experience which is not divine, however, is considered by many religious people as blasphemy or at least as delusion.
How convenient ...
(November 17, 2014 at 1:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I regard spiritual "experiences" as delusional.
I always seen it more like "spiritual" experiences (quotation on the word spiritual), cuz I experimented with lots of drugs (when I was young) which can give you an experience often confused with "spiritual" (as most commonly understood) or even "religious" one.
