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Publicly financed elections.
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RE: Publicly financed elections.
(November 19, 2014 at 7:17 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(November 19, 2014 at 1:37 pm)polar bear Wrote: two things
1. All boats have NOT risen, maybe in your little bubble on FOX news they have, but the real world works more hours for less on a percentage basis.

2. After this last election, how can we stand by and allow our politicians to be purchased by the highest bidder. Yes republicans won, but the dem's took just as much money as their counter parts. Less money would only be a good thing, however it is done

Money is speech so wanting less of it in a campaign is equivalent to wanting less speech in a campaign. I don't think we want less speech in a campaign. What we want is to equalize the amount of speech. A very progressive consumption tax would do just that coupled with making campaign contributions by corporations and people non tax deductible would begin to do that.

No, money is not speech, humans use their vocal cords, and communications. Money is not physically part of your DNA when you are born. Money has no rights, humans do.

Now is that saying rich people do not have rights? You know damned well that is not what I am claiming.

Our First Amendment is an anti monopoly law. It is good enough to say no one has absolute power over issues of religion, or speech, and everyone has a right to appeal to the government for " a redress of grievance".

Now why do you think somehow rich people should not be subject to the same anti monopoly concepts as expressed in the First Amendment? Because those with the most money don't have to follow the same rules the rest of us with less money?

Again this is stupid magical thinking that the private sector cannot become abusive in the same manor a one party state or a theocracy can become. If the First Amendment is good enough for politics and religion then I do not see why rich people should be immune to the same anti monopoly concepts other sectors of society are subject to.

When you argue "money is speech" you are justifying classism. The same classism the Russians suffered from before the Soviet Union and Stalin. NO NO NO NO, that is not justifying Stalin. All he did was shift wealth and power from one class to one party, but he result was the same, A MONOPOLY of absolute power.

Anti monopoly has to apply to the rich and the private sector as much as it does to politics and religion.
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Messages In This Thread
Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 19, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 19, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Minimalist - November 19, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Anomalocaris - November 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 19, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 19, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 19, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Cato - November 19, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Anomalocaris - November 19, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 19, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Mister Agenda - November 19, 2014 at 12:02 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by polar bear - November 19, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 19, 2014 at 7:17 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 19, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 19, 2014 at 9:37 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by polar bear - November 20, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 20, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 20, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 4:02 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 20, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 21, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 21, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 21, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 22, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 22, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 22, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 22, 2014 at 9:17 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 22, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 22, 2014 at 10:40 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 23, 2014 at 10:34 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Chas - November 23, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 23, 2014 at 11:01 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Chas - November 23, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 23, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 22, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by polar bear - November 21, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Ryantology - November 19, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 19, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 20, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 21, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 23, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Cato - November 23, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 23, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Cato - November 23, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 23, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Cato - November 23, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Heywood - November 23, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Publicly financed elections. - by Brian37 - November 23, 2014 at 2:07 pm

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