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RE: How do you feel
December 10, 2014 at 3:37 am (This post was last modified: December 10, 2014 at 4:25 am by Lucanus.)
(December 9, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(December 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm)oukoida Wrote: And what exactly is he supposed to teach you if you end up burning in hell forever or just cease to exist? What use would you have for knowledge then?
He would still have created you to burn forever, and wouldn't have taught you anything by those tests you could actually use in such a situation.

I wasn't speaking of the lost, what makes you think that God teaches those who do not want to believe in Him, He will convict you to get your attention for salvation. God never created people to go to hell, He gives you a choice to stay out of hell.

GC
Convict me to get my attention? This guy must be worse than Joffrey Lannister.

Besides, how can he give me a choice if he's omniscient and already knows the outcome? If anything, he'd give me the illusion of choice, since the results are to him known since the beginning. And he'd be punishing or rewarding me based on something that was determined from the start... By him! Omniscience does not allow for wibbly-wobbly timey wimey stuff.

Also, what use would the saved have for knowledge too? It's not like they're ever going to put it in practice either, being up there in heaven in the eternal ecstasy of god.

Really, your attempts at rationalization are only good for showing how much of an argumentum ad baculum (post mortem) your silly hell stories are.


(December 9, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(December 9, 2014 at 9:54 pm)MechViking Wrote: If god is real and did create religion, I'm hoping his test was having humanity leave it behind.

God did not create religion man did, God wants a personal relationship with man.

GC

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"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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