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Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
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RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
(December 11, 2014 at 8:29 am)whateverist Wrote:
(December 10, 2014 at 10:46 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: In this scenerio the concept of personhood has no meaning. If you extend that line of reasoning then there is no continuity of self, in which case there is no self to go anywhere at all.
Alzheimers is the surest path to this realization. The self is an illusion which, under the proper conditions we can lose the capacity of sustaining.
Wow! Whateverist. I would never have pegged you for someone who would find such a conclusion as anything other than absurd and incoherent. Having worked in hospice, I know that at the very end of life people appear like shadows of their former selves, but I never once doubted that they were nevertheless a continuous instantiation of the same human being, in the same way that an acorn and the mature oak are the same tree.

Even if someone does not fully manifest their form at any given time it doesn’t negate the necessity of their having a form to manifest. For example, just because various triangles only ever partially and imperfectly instantiate the form of triangular, that fact does not mean that triangluraity itself doesn’t exist.
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Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 10, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 10, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Exian - December 10, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 10, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 10, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Jenny A - December 10, 2014 at 11:40 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 10, 2014 at 9:17 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Godschild - December 15, 2014 at 5:52 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 15, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 10, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 11, 2014 at 5:45 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 11, 2014 at 9:34 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 11, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 11, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by abaris - December 11, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 11, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 11, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 11, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Neo-Scholastic - December 11, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 14, 2014 at 11:42 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 14, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 11:55 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 14, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 14, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 15, 2014 at 8:58 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 15, 2014 at 9:18 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Godschild - December 15, 2014 at 10:01 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 15, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 15, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 16, 2014 at 6:53 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 16, 2014 at 7:27 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Tonus - December 16, 2014 at 8:22 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Silver - December 16, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Godschild - December 16, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Esquilax - December 17, 2014 at 3:45 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Crossless1 - December 16, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Godschild - December 16, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 16, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by IATIA - December 16, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 16, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 10:11 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Crossless1 - December 17, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 3:37 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 4:27 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 4:46 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Godschild - December 18, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by abaris - December 18, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by IATIA - December 18, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 18, 2014 at 9:51 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Tonus - December 19, 2014 at 6:38 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Esquilax - December 18, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by KevinM1 - December 18, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 18, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Tonus - December 18, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 18, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 18, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Tonus - December 18, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by KevinM1 - December 18, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by abaris - December 18, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 18, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by IATIA - December 18, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by abaris - December 18, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 18, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 18, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 18, 2014 at 3:08 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 18, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by professor - December 18, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 18, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Tonus - December 18, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Esquilax - December 18, 2014 at 6:11 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Esquilax - December 19, 2014 at 2:13 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by IATIA - December 18, 2014 at 9:48 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Chad32 - December 18, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 2:40 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 4:25 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Godschild - December 19, 2014 at 5:22 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by abaris - December 19, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by dyresand - December 19, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Strider - December 19, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Godschild - December 19, 2014 at 2:02 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Esquilax - December 19, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Strider - December 19, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Esquilax - December 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by KevinM1 - December 19, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by abaris - December 19, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 6:43 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 11:27 am
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by Brakeman - December 19, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal .. - by IATIA - December 19, 2014 at 4:48 pm

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