RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 1:54 am
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2014 at 2:16 am by His_Majesty.)
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Your sample size is too small.
Then more people should start posting.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Ah, so by your very own logic, there are more than 5 billion people who *don't* agree with you.
Wait a minute, there are 5 billion atheists in the world? After all, that is what I was comparing Christianity too.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: And you're still wrong about the facts on that.
No I am not...there are more Christians in this world than atheists.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (not that argument ad populum isn't a logical fallacy or anything)
If it is so much of a fallacy, why would you ask me how many people in this thread were convinced of my argument? Is that argument ad populum? You know, a logical fallacy. I wasn't using it as an initial point, I was only saying that IF you wanted to play that game, then I can play it too.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: In addition, you also claimed you could present data which supported your claim that most historians believe in a historic Jesus, and I not that you utterly failed to support that claim.
Which I did. I gave a video of Bart Ehrman...a video of Richard Dawkins..and a citation of Robert Price...plus a few quotes from historians...and they all said the same thing...and the interesting thing is, why would Bart, Richard, or Robert make the statement if it wasn't true...after all, they are unbelievers...yet they acknowledge that the con-Historical Jesus view is the minority view.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: But the thing is, Shakespeare, I didn't make that claim.
You said in post #75 "He (God) actually doesn't do anything at all, because he is a figment of your imagination."
That is a claim of knowledge...and I simply asked you to provide evidence for that absolute claim...which you didn't, which you can't.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I voiced my opinion that your god is a figment of your imagination.
You conveniently left out the first part where you said made the absolute claim...I just posted it in context above...and the # post you said it in...so keep it real...have some integrity about yourself.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm)Strider Wrote: Now you're backpedaling. You made the statement that "[you] can give statistical data which show that over 2 billion people in this world IS (BTW, sweet grammar fail) convinced".
You can't go back and arbitrarily apply limits to your statement now. Oh, I was only talking about atheism and Christianity...the other religions don't count. That's disingenuous. Facts are facts. Statistical data shows there are more people worldwide who are not convinced, just as we are not.
Yeah, it was a sweet grammar fail on my part, and it is still sweet reading comprehension failure on your part, because again...I was comparing his belief (atheism) with my belief (Christianity)...he was implying that the majority of the people on this thread (who are ATHEISTS), aren't convinced...and my point was, the 2 billion Christians in this world ARE convinced...which is why I gave the pizza analogy (which you fucked) in the first place.
Now, you can keep displaying your lack of comprehension all you want...I have patience, I will work with you.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm)Strider Wrote: The guy who believes in an invisible sky being with a 24/7 surveillance system that knows what every person on Earth is doing at any particular time and knows all of their thoughts is going to boast about a perceived intellectual spanking?
At least my belief is conceivable. I can't even conceive the thought of infinity being traversed, inanimate matter coming to life, and consciousness coming from unconsciousness.
You can't even conceive of those things, and if you can, you can't conceive of it occurring NATURALLY.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:16 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Now, you lay off ole Shakespeare here. He's forgotten more about the English language than you'll ever forget!
Yeah, I am Shakespeare......"To be saved and spend eternity with the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, or not to be saved and subjected to the wrath of the Almighty".
(December 14, 2014 at 6:57 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Our word is the law. You have no say here.
This site is not a democracy and never has been. We write and enforce the rules as we see fit.
Right on, Saddam.