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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 14, 2014 at 5:55 pm
(December 14, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: lol, "intellectual spanking".
The only "intellectual spanking" happening here is an internet dolt mentally spanking his monkey.
This intellectual giant is a dwarf with delusions of adequacy.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 14, 2014 at 6:00 pm
(December 14, 2014 at 5:44 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: (December 14, 2014 at 5:14 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I didn't say "knowledge", dumbass.
Reading comprehension...I said you made a CLAIM of knowledge when you stated that God didn't say it or whatever it was that you said.
Read comprehension people.
But the thing is, Shakespeare, I didn't make that claim. For someone who urges reading comprehension on others, you display a remarkable lack of that skill in yourself.
I voiced my opinion that your god is a figment of your imagination.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:44 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: I find the concept of naturalism virtually impossible.
Of course you do. You're not prone to reading evidence that has been presented to you, after all; you've displayed that trait in this very thread.
What that means, of course, is that while in your opinion naturalism is virtually impossible, your opinion is not an informed one.
I'll disregard it for the rubbish that it is.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm
(December 14, 2014 at 5:44 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: This would be an excellent point if it wasn't for the fact that I was talking about the two worldviews of atheism and Christianity, you know, one of which I hold, and the other of which he holds.
But see, I know you were so hell bent on wanting to jump into the conversation without paying attention to the itty bitty details like that...the kind of guy that would sign the contract without reading the fine print first...those small itsy bitsy words that are so tiny yet they mean so much...shit like that. Now you're backpedaling. You made the statement that "[you] can give statistical data which show that over 2 billion people in this world IS (BTW, sweet grammar fail) convinced". You can't go back and arbitrarily apply limits to your statement now. Oh, I was only talking about atheism and Christianity...the other religions don't count. That's disingenuous. Facts are facts. Statistical data shows there are more people worldwide who are not convinced, just as we are not.
Quote:You've already demonstrated how someone can jump into a conversation without taking the time to comprehend exactly what the hell is going on...so just go back to wherever you came from and we can pretend as if this intellectual spanking never happened.
The guy who believes in an invisible sky being with a 24/7 surveillance system that knows what every person on Earth is doing at any particular time and knows all of their thoughts is going to boast about a perceived intellectual spanking?
lol. Sure, let's pretend it didn't happen.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 14, 2014 at 6:16 pm
(December 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm)Strider Wrote: [...] over 2 billion people in this world IS (BTW, sweet grammar fail) convinced" [...]
Now, you lay off ole Shakespeare here. He's forgotten more about the English language than you'll ever forget!
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 14, 2014 at 6:57 pm
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(December 14, 2014 at 2:38 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: (December 14, 2014 at 2:14 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I object to this thread. Case 1 was never resolved, and a convincing case was never presented let alone defended.
This thread is effectively spam.
Who determines whether or not it was solved? Is this a democracy or dictatorship?
Our word is the law. You have no say here.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 14, 2014 at 7:01 pm
(December 14, 2014 at 6:57 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (December 14, 2014 at 2:38 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: Who determines whether or not it was solved? Is this a democracy or dictatorship?
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 1:48 am
Corinth, in the mid-first century AD was not a major city. In fact, some 20 years later Vespasian had to "re-found" the colony because it was an abject failure. The second time it did begin to grow and was visited by the Greek geographer, Pausanias, during the reign of Hadrian. Oddly, in spite of his interest in various cults, Pausanias detected no jews or xtians in Corinth in the mid second century, AD. Curious but probably not to a dickhead like you.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 1:54 am
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(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Your sample size is too small.
Then more people should start posting.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Ah, so by your very own logic, there are more than 5 billion people who *don't* agree with you.
Wait a minute, there are 5 billion atheists in the world? After all, that is what I was comparing Christianity too.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: And you're still wrong about the facts on that.
No I am not...there are more Christians in this world than atheists.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (not that argument ad populum isn't a logical fallacy or anything)
If it is so much of a fallacy, why would you ask me how many people in this thread were convinced of my argument? Is that argument ad populum? You know, a logical fallacy. I wasn't using it as an initial point, I was only saying that IF you wanted to play that game, then I can play it too.
(December 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: In addition, you also claimed you could present data which supported your claim that most historians believe in a historic Jesus, and I not that you utterly failed to support that claim.
Which I did. I gave a video of Bart Ehrman...a video of Richard Dawkins..and a citation of Robert Price...plus a few quotes from historians...and they all said the same thing...and the interesting thing is, why would Bart, Richard, or Robert make the statement if it wasn't true...after all, they are unbelievers...yet they acknowledge that the con-Historical Jesus view is the minority view.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: But the thing is, Shakespeare, I didn't make that claim.
You said in post #75 "He (God) actually doesn't do anything at all, because he is a figment of your imagination."
That is a claim of knowledge...and I simply asked you to provide evidence for that absolute claim...which you didn't, which you can't.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I voiced my opinion that your god is a figment of your imagination.
You conveniently left out the first part where you said made the absolute claim...I just posted it in context above...and the # post you said it in...so keep it real...have some integrity about yourself.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm)Strider Wrote: Now you're backpedaling. You made the statement that "[you] can give statistical data which show that over 2 billion people in this world IS (BTW, sweet grammar fail) convinced".
You can't go back and arbitrarily apply limits to your statement now. Oh, I was only talking about atheism and Christianity...the other religions don't count. That's disingenuous. Facts are facts. Statistical data shows there are more people worldwide who are not convinced, just as we are not.
Yeah, it was a sweet grammar fail on my part, and it is still sweet reading comprehension failure on your part, because again...I was comparing his belief (atheism) with my belief (Christianity)...he was implying that the majority of the people on this thread (who are ATHEISTS), aren't convinced...and my point was, the 2 billion Christians in this world ARE convinced...which is why I gave the pizza analogy (which you fucked) in the first place.
Now, you can keep displaying your lack of comprehension all you want...I have patience, I will work with you.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm)Strider Wrote: The guy who believes in an invisible sky being with a 24/7 surveillance system that knows what every person on Earth is doing at any particular time and knows all of their thoughts is going to boast about a perceived intellectual spanking?
At least my belief is conceivable. I can't even conceive the thought of infinity being traversed, inanimate matter coming to life, and consciousness coming from unconsciousness.
You can't even conceive of those things, and if you can, you can't conceive of it occurring NATURALLY.
(December 14, 2014 at 6:16 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Now, you lay off ole Shakespeare here. He's forgotten more about the English language than you'll ever forget!
Yeah, I am Shakespeare...... "To be saved and spend eternity with the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, or not to be saved and subjected to the wrath of the Almighty".
(December 14, 2014 at 6:57 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Our word is the law. You have no say here.
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