(December 19, 2014 at 10:55 am)Strider Wrote:(December 19, 2014 at 5:22 am)Godschild Wrote: You seem to believe I do not like science, well you're wrong I like it just fine, I'm very interested in many things and accept much of what science has to say. Evolution, no, it has no proof, you might claim it does but we both no better, unless you're that brain washed by people looking for things in all the wrong places. So you can get off your high horse about myself and science, I used it when I worked, every day.There is a wealth of evidence, GC. Young Earthers don't want to accept this evidence, nor do many apologists. Their denial to acknowledge it doesn't disprove it though. There are human fossils from hundreds of thousands and even millions of years ago that show the progression and changes in humans. There is more evidence, but I'm not going to go over the details as it is all available online and explained much more thoroughly and scientifically than it would be by me. All of this information is available to anyone through the Smithsonian and its websites. http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence
GC
Don't think I haven't see those things and don't think I pass them off, I want to know what scientist believe they have found to compare to what I believe. I do know that dating things by any method starts to fall apart at 50,000 years, my pastor is a nuclear engineer and his son is also a nuclear engineer of the extraordinary kind. So you see I have access to extreme knowledge, they both believe in creation and a young earth, not 6,000 years young but not nearly what some say. I know fossils can't be dated other than the layer of soil they are found in, which is not reliable because of what weather can do to the earth. There's a lot of science that says the earth is young but I do not have the time to explain, go to Christian web sites where reputable scientist work and find out what they have discovered. I also know a scientist who works for the Oak Ridge Nuclear Labs an incredible place if you've never been there. He has proven that long times are not necessary for carbon based material to become coal. He also believes in creation and a young earth, he's also shown the possibility of other processes to happen much quicker than the long times others believe. So, I say again, I have lots of knowledge to go to and like to watch science explore what God has made and discover the wonders that he designed into His creation. I'm not by any means deficient in science, I just see through the eyes of a creator.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.