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What came first, the atheist or the theist?
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RE: What came first, the atheist or the theist?
(July 23, 2010 at 8:42 am)Cecco Wrote: so then do we agree atleast that the idea of there being a god propped up in a human mind earlier in history than did the idea of there not being a god?

it is not the same as the chicken and the egg at all.
You don't seem to quite grasp what is atheism in its broadest sense at all, so permit me to give you an example:

Unicornism is the position where someone actively believes in unicorns, regardless of whether they materialise in the physical universe and interact with humans or not.

A-Unicornism is the position where one rejects the beliefs of unicorns as unproven to be real or has a lack of belief in unicorns.

You are subsequently born a-unicornist because that's the default position; you cannot start off believing or actively denying or being anti-unicornist regarding these mythical one-horned beasts of lore without knowing the concept of them first.

Not knowing the beliefs (having an absence of belief) or rejecting Unicorns is not the same as denying the concept for unicorns, yet the two positions are mutually inclusive since if you're not an Unicornist you'd fall into the category of a-unicornism. One who has no belief in Unicorns, regardless of them either knowing or not knowing the concept, is by default a-unicornist because unicornism deals with what we believe, not what we know about them.

If you've never even heard of the concept of unicorns before, you are an a-unicornist.
If you've heard of the concept and regard it as not true, you are an a-unicornist.
If you hear about the concept and refute it as false, you are also a-unicornist.

Do you understand how all of this relates to atheism and the responses to theistic claims concerning deities by now?
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Messages In This Thread
What came first, the atheist or the theist? - by Cecco - July 22, 2010 at 7:24 pm
RE: What came first, the atheist or the theist? - by Welsh cake - July 24, 2010 at 12:33 pm
RE: What came first, the atheist or the theist? - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2010 at 10:29 am
RE: What came first, the atheist or the theist? - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2010 at 10:41 am
RE: What came first, the atheist or the theist? - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2010 at 11:34 am
RE: What came first, the atheist or the theist? - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2010 at 10:29 pm

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