The more you attend Church, the more likely you are so support Torture.

[Godscreated]

What a ridiculous statement, what Christ was saying Himself and through Paul had to do with individual attacks on Christians because of their beliefs. You yourself pointed out these statements by Christ were to Christians not all Americans, right. Well it so happens we're Americans also, so as an American with an attack on America I would say Christ saying doesn't apply to this situation. Let me ask you this question, do you really believe Christ would not allow us to defend ourselves against mean people who are being plain old mean and, yet allow nonbelievers to protect themselves from the very same people?

GC

The topic here is torture, which is wholly different from self-defense. I hope you're not implying that defense is equivalent to torture. I'm going to go out on a limb here (an admittedly long one) and assume that this isn't the case.

You are correct. A verse was put before me that tried to be used against Christians because the one who presented it thought they had a verse that would condemn Christians in there supposed desire for torture.

GC

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So you see your problems are not with me they are with God.

GC

But since god's not around to be held accountable and you're obviously his self declared all knowing speaker, the problem falls square back on you.

You can't hold a higher being accountable for anything, read the book of Job, the answer is there multiple times. There were verse just posted that stated Christians were to speak out.
You're like a small child playing tag, saying no,no,no I touched you last, grow up.

GC