RE: The more you attend Church, the more likely you are so support Torture.
December 22, 2014 at 10:21 pm
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2014 at 10:37 pm by Godscreated.)
(December 22, 2014 at 10:13 pm)Sionnach Wrote:(December 22, 2014 at 10:02 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not care about all those other gods, they are nothing but wood and stone, meaningless, they bring no hope of anything.
GC
Neither does your god bring you hope of anything. You just think he does.
I'm really sorry you do not see the hope of a supreme God of love, I do know the hope I have it and have experienced it.
GC
(December 22, 2014 at 10:19 pm)Beccs Wrote:(December 22, 2014 at 10:13 pm)Sionnach Wrote: Neither does your god bring you hope of anything. You just think he does.
It's amazing how all religions make this claim.
The followers of the other gods find hope in their beliefs but, apparently, they don't really . . .
How does one find hope in wood or stone, gods made of wood and stone what do they offer?
GC
(December 22, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Sionnach Wrote:(December 22, 2014 at 6:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: You can't hold a higher being accountable for anything
Especially one that does not exist. Therefore, accountability is the responsibility of man's behavior brought about by the delusion that he is doing what his imaginary friend intends.
You can't prove that claim, if you could it would have been done a long time ago.
The Christian church has done more for those in need than any other group of people, we've been practicing responsibility. Can you say the same for atheist, all I see from them is, the only thing that counts is to be logical, rational and super educated.
GC
(December 22, 2014 at 8:50 pm)rasetsu Wrote:(December 22, 2014 at 5:02 pm)Godschild Wrote: God is infinite and unforgiven sin against an eternal being demands an eternal punishment...
Bollocks. That's just a slogan, like "A big pitcher demands a big drink" or "A big steak deserves a big steak sauce." It's just clever word play. It holds no sense. First off, unforgiven sin doesn't demand anything, it's just an inert abstract; it's your unforgiving God that demands infinite punishment. And that doesn't make any sense. We don't hold people accountable for the feelings of the wronged party. People are held accountable for their crimes. Nowhere else but in the warped mind of a Christian would that be considered justice. Nor is holding everyone deserving of the maximum punishment regardless of the severity of the crime. If your God were a judge, he'd rightly be held to be a monster. But I don't hold him as culpable as you for substituting a sing-song rhyme as an adequate defense for the horrific injustice you believe your God perpetrates. That's you doing that, and it's despicable.
No, that's the truth, sin is as a crime against a holy and righteous God, with no forgiveness there is no entrance into heaven, being hell is the only other place to spend eternity... well there it is, does that satisfy you, me leaving out the justice and giving you a reality to live with.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.