RE: The more you attend Church, the more likely you are so support Torture.
December 23, 2014 at 12:57 pm
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2014 at 1:29 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(December 23, 2014 at 12:06 pm)alpha male Wrote: I disagree. All it needs is that the tortured person will sometimes tell the truth. Some recovered children are better than none.
You're still counting on a murderous person telling the truth; you haven't negated that flawed premise. Torture has been shown to be ineffective; the tortured will say what they think their captor wants to hear in order to make the torture stop.
I hold that torture is both immoral and ineffective. The first is an opinion; the latter, fact.
(December 23, 2014 at 12:39 pm)alpha male Wrote: Not necessarily. It depends on the intents of the carpenter.
If a carpenter intends to make a crooked cabinet, when it comes out crooked, why should he get angry at the cabinet?
(December 23, 2014 at 12:39 pm)alpha male Wrote: And in neither case does the cabinet make the judgment.
It's a good thing people aren't cabinets, then. Simply because you've abdicated your duty to make moral assessments doesn't mean that the assessments of others are invalid.
I wonder if the three Christians here who are defending torture are otherwise small-government conservatives?