RE: No Other Gods Before Me?
July 27, 2010 at 7:08 am
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2010 at 7:10 am by Quest of knowledge.)
(July 27, 2010 at 1:53 am)Skeptisma Wrote: Okay, here is my dilemma. Perhaps someone could help me with this, or put on a theist hat and pretend, but this is seriously troubling to me.
In the 10 Commandments - god makes sure to be perfectly clear that he only wants you to worship him/her/whatever and that you must not have any other gods. Now, being an omniscient god, is this admittance that there ARE other gods out there? Because, if there are not, then what would be the point of even wasting several commandments for nothing? I'm super curious if there's any sort of apologetic argument for this.
I hope this makes sense, and I am well aware that I may not get a rational answer considering the subject, but I have to try!
The Judeo-Christian god and creation myth, with Lucifer included up to the first 5 chapters of Genesis was one of the religions invented in Babylon. The Babylonians invaded Palestine (then Phaelistine or Philistine) and gave them the religion with the addition of Exodus, Le…, …, Deuteronomy. These books made many Phaelestinians believe that they were not invaded by a foreign government, but by the countrymen of their “forefathers”. Abraham was supposed to have been born in Ur, which is a city of modern day Iraq, as is the city of Babylon. Many Phaelestinians converted because they felt no power to resist the Babylonians and it was much easier to accept defeat when defeated by your “own people”.
The conversions proved a great strategy for the Babylonians because at that point is when the Philistines (Palestinians) and the Jews started to fight against each other (really against themselves) rather than fighting off the Babylonians. The whole story of how the Jews ended in Phaelestine (Palestine) is a ridiculous epic of continuous silliness, but like Hitler said a lie is more believable the bigger it is and the more times you say it. Here it is in short: Abraham leaves Ur, Babylon (now called Iraq) wonders around Iraq and Jordan. His lovely children sell his son Josef as a slave. Josef ends up in Egypt. He becomes the Pharaoh’s right hand man. His starving brothers go to Egypt to buy grain. Josef forgives them and gives them “immigrant status in Egypt”. The Jews reproduced too quickly for the liking of the subsequent Pharaohs and the Jews were ordered to kill their babies.
The Pharaoh’s daughter finds a baby in a basket in the Nile and raises him. The baby was a Jew named Moses who then decides to “part the waters” of the Red Sea to take all the Jews to the Sinai Desert. There Moses gets the Ten Commandments from god. The story says that the Jews were worshiping the god Tamus (I am not sure about the English spelling at this moment) who was a bull and that it was the god of the Palestinians. Obviously, the Babylonians did not know the area well because the Sinai cannot and does not support life and there is archeological evidence that no large group of people have ever lived there. That means that the Jews would not have met the Palestinians there and that the Jews never spent any time there (let alone 40 years). The story the Babylonians told the Palestinians says that eventually god promised Palestine to the Jews and gave it to them. It worked very well for the Babylonians because the ones that bought into their religious indoctrination would feel a stronger sense of entitlement (god gave them Palestine) and would not view the Babylonians as invaders because Abraham (who never existed) was a Babylonian.
Ezra who was the Babylonian governor of Palestine/Israel during the second Babylonian invasion of Palestine wrote the book of Ezra as a contemporary story at the time and wrote the book of Daniel as a story that took place during the first invasion to make the Jews believe that Babylon was Jewish friendly. There is absolutely no historical evidence that Abraham existed, that Daniel existed, that any large group of Jews lived in Egypt before the first invasion of Palestine, that Moses existed, that there was any large gathering of people in the Sinai Desert, that there was any large influx into Palestine of a culture different that that of the Palestinians’ other than Babylonian, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, and later Arabic.
(July 27, 2010 at 1:53 am)Skeptisma Wrote: Okay, here is my dilemma. Perhaps someone could help me with this, or put on a theist hat and pretend, but this is seriously troubling to me.
In the 10 Commandments - god makes sure to be perfectly clear that he only wants you to worship him/her/whatever and that you must not have any other gods. Now, being an omniscient god, is this admittance that there ARE other gods out there? Because, if there are not, then what would be the point of even wasting several commandments for nothing? I'm super curious if there's any sort of apologetic argument for this.
I hope this makes sense, and I am well aware that I may not get a rational answer considering the subject, but I have to try!
The Palestinian people call themselves Phalesteens and do not have the sound “p” in their language (currently Arabic). The country was called Phaelestina by the Greeks, and the Romans (who did not use ph to produce the “f” sound) dropped the “h” and called it Palestina. The Bible is full of contradictions, inconsistencies, and nonsense regarding events (that includes two conflicting stories about creation in Genesis), protagonists of events, ciphers, and a host of other statements it makes. The Ten Commandments is no different.
