The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands

[Thumpalumpacus]

I've read quite a lot neo pagan books. And they're usually alluring to nature, including humans, as being god. So basically pantheism.

That's what I figured at first -- but existence itself is not a thing at all. It is a state of something. Now, if someone wants to say the Universe is God, hey, that's nice. Let's sit down and chat ... I've got some questions.

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Oddly enough, I haven't read one religious book which defines existence itself as god.

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The Bible is analogies and metaphors.

Jesus said, “I and the Father are ONE”. Didn't they nail him to something for saying that part in particular?

Lets look at John (My favorite gospel) it is in a religious book called the Bible you might want to read.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

How does that not read like God is Everything?

In the beginning was the word AND.
the word (vibrations? frequencies?) was WITH God (in the same place and as we are about to learn in no way seperate)
And the Word WAS God. (as He is the same thing just described. Clearly a metaphor for the complex thought of the paradox of existence)

King James Bible I am using for referance because it is as close as we are going to get to root meanings without going to ancient greek language. which I can do also if you like….

John 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God.

Is to say, “You can substitute the words GOD and WORD for each other all of it is still God even if you go back the to beginning.”
it does not mean the word is sitting next to God as we know from the 1st statement… God IS the word and vice versa.

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

So not one atom or electron or quark or chemical or kitty cat or galaxy is not made by HIM.

Hmmm, How can he make quarks?
Think about it. He would have to be all of the components in order to make something from them.

try to say it in old english and you get John 1:3
one of the Bibles main proofs God is all things.

For without Him was constructed NOTHING.
‘not anything made that was made’ does NOT mean some stuff was made without God lol
this is OLD ENGLISH.
They talked like that.
They would say,”God made the cake. Without God was not any cake made of the cake that was made.
meaning – All this cake here is made by God.
Not – we made a bunch of cakes but those over there were made without God and these here were made with God …
They just said that not any cake was made without God.

Old English.

John 1:4
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

saying part of God is the light that gives us life.
The Sun and stars and the by product of fire basically.
I say part of God because they say "In Him"
To say "In him was a strong farmer and a kind man" about someone then meant that one of the characteristics about the person being described is that they were a strong farmer and another is that they were kind.

John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
yeah… lol no explanation needed here...

John 1:6
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

we are ALL sent from God… One of them was named John…

John 1:7
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe

Light clearly being used esoterically as a metaphor for life and for God since John 1:4
He came to say to others, “hey guys I see GOD!”
to witness (see a real thing and testify to its reality) so that others may even believe in what he already can see so that they too will then be able to see it.

John 1:8
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

Which is to say he is not a ego freak thinking He is God. He is seeing God and telling about It. Like me.

John 1:9
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

aka God. (the author indicating a common unity here so the mind can grasp the concept. It must be something real that everyone can see because it is what gives us life. Very clearly defined here in old english)

John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

If I built a house is that house not part of me? Would you not say so? is it not my garden in my yard as it is my hands and my feet?
this is old english. this is how they spoke to each other about common things.

This verse is NOT saying God is seperate from the world. It is saying he is everything in that world plus whatever may have created It. The LIFE of life. And that that world still fails to see Him despite witnesses. What could be more worthy of a book?

John 1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

yeah boy do I know that feeling LOL

I can go on here for literally ALL of the Bible as I have studied It in multiple languages for OVER 40 years. With several college courses and personal mentorships and the reading of pretty much everything they ever found in a cave for the last 6000 years or so….

not to brag, I'm just saying what the guy posted is backed up by the Bible and just about every religious text ever written. Especially in the old original translations from ancient Greek.

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The Bible describes the evolving of God
aka (also known as) Life Itself.

That doesn't follow. I find the Bible unimpressive, and don't consider your take particularly useful, no matter how impressive your C.V. (curriculum vitae) might appear.

Also, is there some sort of rule that Christians who visit here must compare their reception here with the travails of Christ? Seems like every one of you guys do that shit.

So you're having a hard day on an Internet message board? I'm sure that's just like crucifixion.