(December 29, 2014 at 4:01 pm)DaddyMoreBucks Wrote: so many of you missing the elephant in the room lol
Oi! Stop! No! I said stop assuming your position is correct by necessity and actually demonstrate that it is. Passive aggressive grandstanding like this is the opposite of what I asked you to do!
Quote:Assuming I am an idiot is your first mistake.
Everything I've posted to you so far is based on the premise that you aren't an idiot and potentially actually could justify your claims. I'm trying not to make the assumption you're accusing us of, but you're making it very hard every time you post.
Quote:Your second is assuming that everyone that ever devoted their life to God had only an Imaginary concept of why.
If they have a realistic concept they'd better be able to demonstrate that.
Quote:your 5th mistake is taking literally all the words you have ever read that are describing a thing that is inherently undescribeable.
If you're unable to describe it then why do you keep describing it as existence?
Quote:Your 6th mistake is assuming that all the evidence of definition that I have comes from the Bible when the bible makes up at best 5% of it.
it is simply the most common. i can quote from all kinds of stuff they found in caves over the last several thousands of years to back it up as well.
there are literally hundreds of books on religion throughout history that have One commonality.
A theme if you will.
And that is what God is.
And how do you intend to demonstrate that this theme you see is A: what the authors originally intended and not simply something you're imposing on the text after the fact to make it match your presuppositions, and B: actually real and not just a very common delusion? You haven't done either yet.
Quote:I have provided several quotes that clearly you never read or have such a prejudice too that when you see a biblical reference the disregard flows from you like a waterfall.
Yes, because nobody could ever disagree with you unless they're out to get you personally, for some reason!
Quote:Who else should define God?
An Atheist that never even got the concept in the first place?
A Christian that never got the concept in the first place?
Some dumb soldier like me that spouts a bunch of stuff about how great God is?
Or the AUTHORS of the books...
How do you know that what you think the authors meant is actually what they meant? Have you talked to them all?
Quote:I know why it is hard for you guys to get this.
you are men of faith.
Oh, fuck off, you equivocating shitstain.
Quote:the Atheist BELIEVES there is no God. He can know no more than the blind Christian can.
Ah, see, and there you go: you're dead wrong but because you've never bothered to ask you think you can just dictate to me what I believe. Atheism is a lack of belief in god, not a belief that none exist. If you can present evidence of a god, we'll believe in it.
You've just utterly failed to do that for your god, beyond unjustified platitudes and passive aggressive dishonesty.
Quote:A good way to describe God is the narrowing down everything you see to the 4 elements air, earth, fire, and water, and then seeing what the 4 elements have made when you mix them together.
Yeah, but you fail to realize that everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
We've gone past this four elements shit a long ass time ago, you know.
Quote:Wouldn't it be weird if Windows 7 had a logo that did that?
...even they know this guys and gals...
... Are you literally insane?
Quote:But the HUGE mistake of the Atheist is thinking that a concept which has survived wars, torture, persecution, alternate versions of itself engineered to suck money out of people, thieves, bullies, King's rath, and the slaying of millions, is based on nothing.
So if the belief that the sky is bright pink and made of cotton candy survived all of that, would it be true? Or would it be false, but persistent?
Quote:your mind can only think so far as the limits you place upon it.
if you insist God cannot mean what i say it means then you are being closed minded i would ask you to be courteous enough to at least pretend that is what it means for a few minutes and see if anything clicks.
Demonstration please, not insults. Obviously what you're saying isn't as self evident as you seem to think it is.
Quote:All I have been asking you to do is consider the definition.
And my oh my you guys get your feathers all kinds of ruffled over it.
How dare i ask you to consider that you may have the definition of God wrong oh hell no you say.
You KNOW what God means as much as i do right?
you are certain you are right you have FAITH in it.
I just asked you for evidence. The fact that you ignored me completely is rather telling.
Ugh, I'm not doing the rest of this thing. Look dude: evidence, or shut up, okay?
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