RE: Indoctrination & Mental Gymnastics
January 12, 2015 at 2:00 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 2:04 pm by Lek.)
(January 11, 2015 at 9:46 pm)goodwithoutgod Wrote: The jesus myth is a fascinating study. Here are a few of my notes. The interesting thing is not only that is no evidence of a historical jesus, but the fact that no one who ever wrote of jesus, knew him. Also, I agree with Dr carrier that most likely the jesus myth was borrowed heavily from Romulus, who predates him by 800 years...
You're taking way too much liberty in saying that saying that your assertions are "fact". In fact, probably most historians and bible scholars disagree with your statement that there is no evidence of a historical Jesus. Also, your conjecture that none of the new testament writers knew him is much disagreed about among historians and scholars. You're presenting your assumptions as fact.
Quote:Mythology has always fascinated me. When you research mythology, you find the common strains, a rhythm, a philosophical skeletal system where the “hero god” is constructed, and the same system is used time and time again. It is almost as if one borrowed from another throughout time. It is impossible to ignore the implication of systematic fabrication. The jesus story, however, was not original. The entire story seems to have been plagiarized in bits and pieces, and sometimes blatantly intact, from ancient god/man mythology passed down by Greek, Roman, Egyptian, and Persian cultures.
How about similar myths that were developed separately from this tradition, such as Buddha and Krishna? Do these stories come from the same previous tradition or were they be developed separately? Or does the gospel have to have come from these traditions? You're saying that because these traditions existed and were known that the gospel writers latched on to them. They wanted to produce something believable, so they took the myth of Romulus, which was well known to the Romans of the time, and decided to tweak to fit Jesus. I'm sure that is something that an intelligent philosopher would do. No one would realize that they were tweaking the Romulus myth. Your argument is not new. It was present in the days of the early church and did nothing to hinder the spread of christianity.
Quote:So the fact that the jesus son of god myth story has clearly been plagiarized from older Greek, Roman, Egyptian, and Persian cultures, coupled with the fact that no one who wrote of Jesus actually knew him should make a thinking person take a pause, and reflect on the basis of their faith.
Here we go again with your conjecture. If that's an opinion, then fine, but don't try to pass it off as fact - even if it is an educated opinion.