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Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
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Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
Someone on Facebook posted this:

A recent Pew report found that 69% of all Catholics do NOT believe that the Eucharist at mass is the true body and blood of Christ (transubstantiation)...which is not in alignment with the teaching of the Catholic Church.  It truly is a shocking statistic.  

So it's "truly shocking" to this idiot's small brain that a fucking cracker is just a fucking cracker? It's truly shocking that it's not magic?

This is why humanity is missing nice things.
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#2
RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
I grew up Catholic and didn't know that the belief in transubstantiation was a thing until I had long been away from the religion.

I thought the whole "body and blood of Christ" thing was just something they said to make it seem important.
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#3
RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
Cafeteria catholics are everywhere, I'm married to one.

When pressed I think a majority of catholics will tell you that they pick and choose what to believe. The problem is with dogma, not people.
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RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
(June 28, 2021 at 11:03 am)FredTheLobster Wrote: Someone on Facebook posted this:

A recent Pew report found that 69% of all Catholics do NOT believe that the Eucharist at mass is the true body and blood of Christ (transubstantiation)...which is not in alignment with the teaching of the Catholic Church.  It truly is a shocking statistic.  

So it's "truly shocking" to this idiot's small brain that a fucking cracker is just a fucking cracker? It's truly shocking that it's not magic?

This is why humanity is missing nice things.
This is why the extra terrestials don' t do business here...
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#5
RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
If you suffer from complete mental paralysis, are you even capable of gymnastics?
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RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
(June 28, 2021 at 11:03 am)FredTheLobster Wrote: Someone on Facebook posted this:

A recent Pew report found that 69% of all Catholics do NOT believe that the Eucharist at mass is the true body and blood of Christ (transubstantiation)...which is not in alignment with the teaching of the Catholic Church.  It truly is a shocking statistic.  

So it's "truly shocking" to this idiot's small brain that a fucking cracker is just a fucking cracker? It's truly shocking that it's not magic?

This is why humanity is missing nice things.

What’s truly shocking is that a whopping 31% continue to believe it.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
(June 28, 2021 at 12:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 28, 2021 at 11:03 am)FredTheLobster Wrote: Someone on Facebook posted this:

A recent Pew report found that 69% of all Catholics do NOT believe that the Eucharist at mass is the true body and blood of Christ (transubstantiation)...which is not in alignment with the teaching of the Catholic Church.  It truly is a shocking statistic.  

So it's "truly shocking" to this idiot's small brain that a fucking cracker is just a fucking cracker? It's truly shocking that it's not magic?

This is why humanity is missing nice things.

What’s truly shocking is that a whopping 31% continue to believe it.

Boru

I don't think that the 31% really do, rather, I think that they are just paying lip service to the whole idea.  Back in the Day, when the Church would burn people alive for having "desecrated" the so-called "Body of Christ," that's when they really believed in it.  The only reason that the Catholic Church has influence now is because it had influence then; the whole enterprise has run out of gas and is just coasting to complete irrelevance.
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RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
Hmmm...this doctrine is called called a mystery but it really is not as mysterious as it seems. The sacrament changes the final cause but not the material cause. The result is a new substance in the Scholastic sense for using the word substance, i.e. as the manifestation of causes in a single unity. Catholic use the same wording when referring to their denomination as the body of Christ as they do the host, also referred to as body of Christ. My translation would be something like this is the people (food, texts, etc.) dedicated as a means for fulfilling Christ's redemtive purpose in the world.

Church-speak is kind of a pet peeve of mine. And yet this is a nomenclature refined over 2000 years to be as exact as possible so another pet peeve of mine is when people unfamiliar with the jargon go off on it.
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#9
RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
One explanation for a cantrips efficacy is just as ridiculous as any other, IMO.

The church has had obvious need to refine their superstitions over the centuries, tied as their existence has been to the acceptability of their beliefs among their constituency, and the changing beliefs and demographics of that constituency.

Whether they seek to explain how the magic works in the language of the gutter or by flowery prose - both are, equivalently, explanations for how the magic works.
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RE: Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion
(June 28, 2021 at 12:45 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(June 28, 2021 at 12:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What’s truly shocking is that a whopping 31% continue to believe it.

Boru

I don't think that the 31% really do, rather, I think that they are just paying lip service to the whole idea.  Back in the Day, when the Church would burn people alive for having "desecrated" the so-called "Body of Christ," that's when they really believed in it.  The only reason that the Catholic Church has influence now is because it had influence then; the whole enterprise has run out of gas and is just coasting to complete irrelevance.

*shrug* They believe in talking snakes, talking donkeys, the voice of God coming out of a flaming shrub, touch-healing, walking on water, transmutation, a global flood, magic iron, demons possessing pigs, angels, necromancy, etc etc. Believing in transubstantiation doesn’t seem like much of a stretch.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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