RE: Why is religion so repugnant to some people
January 13, 2015 at 1:33 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2015 at 1:40 pm by Violet.)
(January 13, 2015 at 1:16 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(January 13, 2015 at 11:37 am)IATIA Wrote: What would that evidence be? Just because one believes in their mind that machines are testing and validating a reality does not make it real as it is all still in one's mind. All perception is within one's mind and there is no way to validate reality.
The fact that we're having this conversation means that we are each perceiving an occurrence. Shared perceptions between two otherwise unconnected minds would be evidence that those perceptions are at least somewhat accurate.
That's intersubjectivity, assuming you believe that they're another person and not just another part of your head games.
Quote:Now, if you wish to argue that you're not real, have at it.
That'd be pointless, after all... Everything is real. It has to be... otherwise it wouldn't exist.
At the end of the day, solipsism is anything but wrong... but unlike the solipsists: I am not faithless.

Just as are my thoughts evidence for my being... so too is any descriptor to define that which already is.
The solipsistic view would still be that it all exists... but in one's head/in their flawed perceptions of the universe. I am not so full of myself as to believe I am causing all of this, that I could even do this... and I've a talent for world and character building at that.
(January 13, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I don't think 'hate' describes how I feel about that character, it's more like how I feel towards Sauron or Voldemort or the Sith Emperor. They're evil, but they're not real...but if someone says Sauron is real and a good role model, I get a little worried. If serious, I might point out that not only is Sauron not real, he's evil.
If your version of God isn't of that type, there might be nothing wrong with it except that it's probably not real.
They're not REALLY real, eh?


Sauron's kind of impersonal evil... I'm not wholly convinced that he's not a good role model. He took what he wanted, and brought the world to its knees... that's impressive.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day