Indoctrination & Mental Gymnastics

[dyresand]

You haven't asked me a question yet, so I'll comment on your statement above. Here's my understanding on the nature of Christ. He is God and man - fully God and fully man. Together with the Holy Spirit, he is one with the father. Each person of the Trinity is a distinct being, but they are in essence one God. In his role as a man, he gave up certain privileges of his divinity and became subject to the Father. If a person has a doctrine that states that Jesus was not God or was a lesser god, then they don't agree with traditionally accepted christian doctrine. I said in an earlier post that this is my opinion. I'm not God and I don't know their hearts. I leave that up to God. In the context of my earlier statements, I was relating my opinions to those who didn't believe that Jesus was one with and equal to the Father. I'll admit that, within the context of the thread, I was being narrow, but I'm open to any questions you want to ask.

"If a person has a doctrine that states that Jesus was not God or was a lesser god, then they don't agree with traditionally accepted christian doctrine."

Traditionally accepted does not mean, valid, true, or relevant.

Why there are no records of Jesus Christ

It is not possible to find in any legitimate religious or historical writings compiled between the beginning of the first century and well into the fourth century any reference to Jesus Christ and the spectacular events that the Church says accompanied his life.

This confirmation comes from Frederic Farrar (1831-1903) of Trinity College, Cambridge:
"It is amazing that history has not embalmed for us even one certain or definite saying or circumstance in the life of the Saviour of mankind ... there is no statement in all history that says anyone saw Jesus or talked with him. Nothing in history is more astonishing than the silence of contemporary writers about events relayed in the four Gospels."
(The Life of Christ, Frederic W. Farrar, Cassell, London, 1874)

This situation arises from a conflict between history and New Testament narratives. Dr Tischendorf made this comment:
"We must frankly admit that we have no source of information with respect to the life of Jesus Christ other than ecclesiastic writings assembled during the fourth century."
(Codex Sinaiticus, Dr Constantin von Tischendorf, British Library, London)

There is an explanation for those hundreds of years of silence:
the construct of Christianity did not begin until after the first quarter of the fourth century, and that is why Pope Leo X (d. 1521) called Christ a "fable"

In reality jesus never existed so he should be removed from the bible. Anything magic also should be removed from the bible. Also adam and eve they never existed.