“The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam

[paulpablo]

In terms of mathematics, your natural urge is a constant, which is devoid of your Free Will whereas fulfilment of that urge is a variable, which is very dependent on your Free Will. This way your Free Will is not constrained to the nature of your body therefore, Free Will in fact is the manipulator of all your physical actions.

If Free Will has no physical matter and it is not constrained to the nature of human body then it is a separate and independent attribute. I call it an attribute of the soul.

First I'd just like you to explain why taking nourishment, growing, reproducing, moving and perceiving, do not belong to the nature of bodies.
I don't even really know what belonging to the nature of bodies means.

You say these acts must belong to a principle they have other than bodies.
Why would reproduction belong to a principle other than bodies?

I don't understand the basis of this argument, the need for reproduction comes from biology, chemicals within the body, including the brain, this is where the will power is coming from, this is where decisions are made on how a person is able to get sex, the need for sex comes from testosterone and various other hormones.

What is it that makes the natural urges constant and the fulfillment of the urges variable?

If Free Will has no physical matter and it is not constrained to the nature of human body then it is a separate and independent attribute. I call it an attribute of the soul.

The choices people make, from what I can tell, are manipulated by their biology, including a persons brain. There's no need to make up an imaginary immaterial thing called a soul and claim that the soul is responsible for free will.

paulpablo Wrote: I don't believe in any religion because everyone of them comes into being with the method of god telling 1 man, then him telling other people.


Why you are troubled with this idea? Is not your schoolteacher (one person) telling and teaching you (students) something and then you telling other people? That is a normal thing in the real world.

The comparison you're giving incomparable to the situation of god telling one man to tell the rest of the world about a new religion.
I don't have a school teacher, when I did I had more than one, they all pretty much agreed with each other on the subjects they were teaching, and none of them told me what they told me expecting me to spread the word to the rest of humanity using a book of vague poetry written only in one language.

If you run away from learning by blaming biology for the evil of Dawkins then that would be an evil act of yours because you prefer laziness to learning biology and let Dawkins harm people.

If you think, Prophet Mohammad was a deceiver who deceived whole of humanity then show us the truth and help whole of the humanity by exposing his lies and fabrications. Prove that about 2 billion Muslims around the world are following a deceiver and Quran is nothing more than a concoction. Whole humanity (including me) would be thankful to you.

Before I reply to this I'd just like to say that my reply to this is basically inconsequential to the thread, I'd love to have an official debate with you on here about the quran, I think it can be organized, but all I have to say about your statement for now is this.....

Islam is a movement beyond Muhammad. The evidence for this is that Muhammad is dead and their are still Muslims.

Evolutionary science would still be going strong without Richard Dawkins.

Muhammad didn't deceive the whole of humanity, because the whole of humanity aren't Muslims.
He didn't even deceive all the Muslims, Jesus and Paul didn't deceive all the Christians.
Out of those 2 billion Muslims, how many of those people would actually sit down and talk with another Muslim and agree with that other Muslim, after a long discussion, that they are following the same rules and believe in the same ideas?

These Muslims are comprised of terrorist Muslims, terrorist sympathizers, terrorist haters, evolutionist Muslims, homosexual Muslims, creationist Muslims, homosexual hating Muslims, Shia Muslims, the racist nation of Islam, the quranist Muslims, plus a vast vast number of others that you probably know more about than I do.

By the way I'm not saying that Muslims are terrorists, I'm just presenting these as people who are on paper, statistically speaking, considered Muslims. If there was a survey, they would tick the Muslim box, I personally know alcohol drinkers, sexually active non married people, gamblers, who would all tick the Muslim box.

Muhammad managed to persuade no more people than the average military dictator into his way of thinking, then he died, and the movement became a big, divided movement that today no one man could control.

If Muhammad came back from the dead today and tried to regain control of the movement he created he would probably be shot back to death by a Muslim.

And would the people who consider themselves to be followers of Muhammad appreciate me telling them why they have been deceived?
Well first answer me this question, do you believe a person claiming to be a Muslim has purposefully given misleading information about Islam in order to convert people? And do you believe some people would believe in Islam even if it was proven to be a false religion? And one more important question, do you believe that denial and self deception exist?

I believe the answer to all three questions is a big clear yes, and because of that reason I believe you're definitely wrong, a lot of people who believe in Islam would not thank me for pointing out to them why I think Islam is false. I actually think some of them would probably kill me before asking any questions if they could.