(August 6, 2010 at 8:05 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Yes. Your belief seems to be naturalistic, in that you believe what we have is the best we'll ever get. there is no 'way' to follow. So what's the point? The bible serves only as a comment on how we reached this enlightened state. Yet how do you know that you are like God? After all, there is nothing to aim for. You are already perfect. Or do you strive to uphold Christian standards?
There are two realms we're dealing with... eternal, and immediate. I never claimed that we reached a perfect state in this life... to the best of my knowledge, sin and death are undesirable (and by definition, perfection cannot be undesirable).
I am saying that in the grand scale of eternity, our actions on earth are ultimately meaningless, but if I go and punch somebody right now, I have little doubt that I will immediately experience the result of said action.
It amazes me that when the playing field is flattened, and Christians do not get better, but equal treatment in the long run... it seems to ruffle their feathers. I always thought Christians claimed that they were "not better than anybody else" and used phrases like "but for the grace of God, there go I".
- Dante Voltaire