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Challenge regarding Christian morality
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RE: Challenge regarding Christian morality
Here is another Christian innovation to morality: "vicarius redemption" / "substitutionary atonement"
Quote:Technically speaking, substitutionary atonement is the name given to a number of Christian models of the atonement that all regard Jesus as dying as a substitute for others, 'instead of' them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substitutionary_atonement

Of course, the scapegoat concept is not original to Christianity. Here is a quote from wikipedia about the use of a goat, but I read somewhere that this concept was also used on humans. The king would designate somebody else as king and then kill that king to appease the gods for any of his mistakes during the year.
Quote:A concept superficially similar to the biblical scapegoat is attested in two ritual texts in archives at Ebla of the 24th century BC.[10] They were connected with ritual purification on the occasion of the king's wedding. In them, a she-goat with a silver bracelet hung from her neck was driven forth into the wasteland of "Alini"; "we" in the report of the ritual involves the whole community. Such "elimination rites", in which an animal, without confession of sins, is the vehicle of evils (not sins) that are chased from the community are widely attested in the Ancient Near East.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoat



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