RE: Challenge regarding Christian morality
January 25, 2015 at 11:12 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2015 at 11:16 am by Davka.)
(January 24, 2015 at 11:47 pm)Lek Wrote:But that alone is not enough information. We need to hear the wife's side of things. Is the husband abusive, either physically or emotionally? Is he actually present in the relationship, or does he simply want his wife because she fills a need?(January 24, 2015 at 11:29 pm)Davka Wrote: Depends on what you promise. What if you make a stupid promise to the wrong person, or an ill-informed promise? Or a promise that's impossible to keep? Like most things, it's not black-and-white.
As for violating a legal contract, well, that's just silly. It's not a violation or an abrogation, it's a nullification. Both parties agree to bring the contractual relationship to a close. What's immoral about that?
In the situation I presented, the husband did not agree to the divorce. He wanted to stay together.
And why would he want to keep the marriage together if she does not? There is clearly a huge disconnect involved. One partner wanting to keep a marriage together while the other wants to break it up is an indication of deep, deep interpersonal problems.
If one partner in a legal contract acts in bad faith regarding the implied terms of that contract, it is not immoral for the other partner to take legal steps to nullify the contract.
Quote:Yes, marriage has been around for a long time; and only recently has it become a government- controlled contract.
Also only recently has it been strictly between one man and one woman. Only recently have the religious authorities pretended to have some say as to whether or not two people are "married." Only recently has a religion-sanctified ceremony been required by religious leaders.
For most of recorded history, marriage was quite different from what it is today in the west. But then, the same can be said for almost all aspects of life. The history of social contracts is barely relevant to the state of those same contracts today.
(January 25, 2015 at 2:28 am)Drich Wrote:(January 24, 2015 at 2:41 pm)Davka Wrote: you mean the part where you travel around the world, forcing your beliefs on the locals and attempting to erase their cultural heritage?
No
It's the love God with all your being thing and love your neighbor as yourself.
If you have the first in proper focus the second will take on a more in depth meaning than if you were to try this with out God.
I hear lots of noise about this, but I don't see it in practice.
In practice I see Christians trying to force their religious opinions (via legislation) on their neighbor, without any regard to what their neighbor actually wants or needs.
Here's a better life verse: Do Justice, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly with your "God."