RE: Is truth relative?
January 26, 2015 at 9:54 am
(This post was last modified: January 26, 2015 at 9:56 am by Brian37.)
(January 26, 2015 at 9:47 am)bennyboy Wrote:(January 26, 2015 at 8:39 am)Brian37 Wrote: I always get a lip twitch when people do this. It is not lab thinking, it isn't that you should never question, yes you should question. I simply don't like the attitude that platonic thinking is alone enough to problem solve. You still have to take whatever thoughts and ideas you might have and set up a compare and contrast with control groups, test and falsify them and get them independently peer reviewed. Now unless science discovers some earth shattering method that makes scientific method mute, what you are doing really is still mental masturbation.I'm not sure which is worse, your insulting tone, the apparently absolute disconnect between what you just quoted and what you just said, or the fact that you've obviously been too lazy to read a couple pages into the thread in order to see what the fuck people are talking about.
Dawkins if you do not know places blame on Plato for all the utopia political and religious ideology humans have suffered from since. Plato postulated that if you simply thought about something you could find it's "essence". His idea of questioning was good, but the fatal flaw is he did not have a good concept of why comparing and testing was really the only thing that could insure the best quality of data and most accurate answers.
I am not saying do not do what you are doing. I simply think it still means nothing until it can be tested and falsified.
What is exactly "insulting" to remind people that right now our best tool is to test and falsify?
I think you need to read. I said yes question. I never said don't question or think. I said you still need to combine that with the best tool we have currently in scientific method.
I see nothing wrong with reminding people it isn't enough to simply leave things at thought experiments.
Now I really would suggest you read the opening to "The Greatest Show On Earth" to understand why I am merely giving all reading this a reminder.
The point being you still have to take anything you serve as a hypothesis and put it through testing. No need at all to feel insulted.