(January 26, 2015 at 11:29 am)bennyboy Wrote:(January 26, 2015 at 9:54 am)Brian37 Wrote: What is exactly "insulting" to remind people that right now our best tool is to test and falsify?
I think you need to read. I said yes question. I never said don't question or think. I said you still need to combine that with the best tool we have currently in scientific method.
I see nothing wrong with reminding people it isn't enough to simply leave things at thought experiments.
Now I really would suggest you read the opening to "The Greatest Show On Earth" to understand why I am merely giving all reading this a reminder.
The point being you still have to take anything you serve as a hypothesis and put it through testing. No need at all to feel insulted.
At what point in this thread did I say we should discard science? At what point did I say we should not do experiments? You might as well have entered the thread shouting "Fuck you, I like kittens. . . and you're mentally masturbating!"
No need at all to feel insulted? Except, you mean, for the part where you read the OP, completely misunderstood it, failed to read any of the rest of the thread, and then accused me of mental masturbation?
(January 26, 2015 at 10:27 am)tantric Wrote: First, understand this statement, which seems to be both true and self-contradictory: There are no absolutes.
Yes, but are there absolutely no absolutes?
*shakes fist*

Again, you missed my point.
This was just a reminder, and not even for you. It is more for laypeople and especially theists who might read this.
Those who accept science as our best tool so far, still need to accept that there ARE people who take "Oh, so you admit you don't know everything" and run with that to excuse the false idea that their god exists until we disprove it.
I think things like this should always go with a reminder that you still always have to get it into a lab. That shuts the apologists loophole down.
When you see theists and even new agers go "AH HA" after 14 years you realize that they do not treat logic or words the same way we do.
For the same reason they cant understand the way science uses the word "theory" and the way they stupidly use it.
Thats all, wasn't you at all, it merely my own bugaboo with how laypeople might twist this.