I suppose if you define creation as speaking things into existence, then I suppose Humans don't create other Humans. We don't have access to Naming Magic. When two Humans combine a sperm with an egg, a Human grows out of it. If you want to say your god put a soul in there, you need to prove that souls and gods exist.
And who decides what is ok in a relationship between Humans and gods? The god? Just because he's more powerful? How is that any different than my dad saying it? Both of them could easily kill me if they wanted. What gives the god the right to do what he wants?
You want to go into moral law? How is genocide, rape, and slavery ok (with one or two exceptions), but homosexuality an abomination. The bible is not morally superior to secular laws. A society following your god's moral law would be doing what theocracies do. It ends up with mass murder, priests getting away with raping children, and holding down all but a select group of people on pain of abandonment and death. Don't act like the morals of that book are better than democratic secular morals, because history and current events don't agree.
You wanted me to point out where he says beg for forgiveness, but that's avoiding my point. Why should I need forgiveness for something I have nothing to do with?
If what I do to other people offends him, he is a third party to it. I can't imagine that I could harm him, or cause him to lose something he can't get back, so I haven't done anything directly to him. Except refuse to worship something I don't know exists, and speak out against things that I was raised to find repulsive.
If I have done something wrong, I'll take responsibility for it. I don't need someone else to be brutally murdered on my behalf, to be used as a scapegoat. As long as my sentence is just, which among other things means it's temporary.
Yes, he is partly responsible for everything that happens, by virtue of not nipping Satan in the bud before he screwed it up, and having the power to stop horrible things from happening that Humans have no control over.
And who decides what is ok in a relationship between Humans and gods? The god? Just because he's more powerful? How is that any different than my dad saying it? Both of them could easily kill me if they wanted. What gives the god the right to do what he wants?
You want to go into moral law? How is genocide, rape, and slavery ok (with one or two exceptions), but homosexuality an abomination. The bible is not morally superior to secular laws. A society following your god's moral law would be doing what theocracies do. It ends up with mass murder, priests getting away with raping children, and holding down all but a select group of people on pain of abandonment and death. Don't act like the morals of that book are better than democratic secular morals, because history and current events don't agree.
You wanted me to point out where he says beg for forgiveness, but that's avoiding my point. Why should I need forgiveness for something I have nothing to do with?
If what I do to other people offends him, he is a third party to it. I can't imagine that I could harm him, or cause him to lose something he can't get back, so I haven't done anything directly to him. Except refuse to worship something I don't know exists, and speak out against things that I was raised to find repulsive.
If I have done something wrong, I'll take responsibility for it. I don't need someone else to be brutally murdered on my behalf, to be used as a scapegoat. As long as my sentence is just, which among other things means it's temporary.
Yes, he is partly responsible for everything that happens, by virtue of not nipping Satan in the bud before he screwed it up, and having the power to stop horrible things from happening that Humans have no control over.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html