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Indisputable proof for a God
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RE: Indisputable proof for a God
(August 9, 2010 at 1:18 pm)tavarish Wrote: It's TAG in a nutshell.
Erm...I think you'll find TAG is a totally different argument.

TAG goes something like this:

1) Knowledge is possible (or some other statement pertaining to logic or morality)
2) If there is no god, knowledge is not possible
3) Therefore God exists.

This argument is definitely the Cosmological one. Compare the one cited in the link:

1) The movement of my hand is something which began to exist.
2) Whatever begins to exist must have a cause.
3) Therefore, the movement of my hand must have a cause.
4) This cause will either be A: contingently existent [along with what that entails], or B: necessarily existent [along with what that entails]. There is no 3rd possibility.
5) This cause is not a contingently existing cause.
6) Therefore, by rational necessity, it must be a necessarily existent Being who created the movement of my hand [along with all of what this entails].

...to the one cited by the Wikipedia article:

1) Every finite and contingent being has a cause.
2) A causal loop cannot exist.
3) A causal chain cannot be of infinite length.
4) Therefore, a First Cause (or something that is not an effect) must exist.
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Indisputable proof for a God - by ozy123 - August 8, 2010 at 5:59 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Darwinian - August 8, 2010 at 6:03 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by ozy123 - August 8, 2010 at 6:11 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Skeptisma - August 8, 2010 at 6:09 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by ABierman1986 - August 8, 2010 at 6:11 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Minimalist - August 8, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Darwinian - August 8, 2010 at 6:16 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Minimalist - August 8, 2010 at 6:23 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Darwinian - August 8, 2010 at 6:26 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Rev. Rye - August 8, 2010 at 6:45 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Tiberius - August 8, 2010 at 7:05 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 8, 2010 at 8:21 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by padraic - August 8, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by ozy123 - August 8, 2010 at 8:55 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 8, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by padraic - August 9, 2010 at 2:12 am
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by ozy123 - August 9, 2010 at 7:01 am
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 9, 2010 at 12:43 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by tavarish - August 9, 2010 at 1:18 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Tiberius - August 9, 2010 at 9:00 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Captain Scarlet - August 20, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by ozy123 - August 20, 2010 at 6:43 pm
RE: Indisputable proof for a God - by Minimalist - August 20, 2010 at 6:51 pm

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