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Logical contradictions?
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RE: Logical contradictions?
(August 9, 2010 at 1:33 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:
(August 8, 2010 at 6:27 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: One thing I've not got my head around. One for any Christian theist.

How can Jesus be fully man and fully god. Man is limited, god unlimited. This is a straightforward logical contradiction. Without hiding behind any mysterious response how do you reconcile this?

This is one of the wierdest things that mystifies me as well. Jesus is himself (of course) and he is god, according to certain christians, despite the fact that he refers to himself in the first person and god many times in the second and third but never the first person.
There are even instances in the bible where he talks to god directly and he certainly makes no indication of being able to do the things god can do. According to the bible, Jesus can apparently make miracles, but he is not god.
If anything, his story paralells that of many of the mortal children of gods, though the only other example I can think of with my limited theological knowledge is Hercules, who despite being far more awesome is essentially in the same son of man and god boat as Jesus.

That's my take on it anyway.

He does seem to have been a man, always insightful even at age 12, yet showing considerable vulnerability, being surprised at a turn of events, unaware how much faith some person had, etc. Nevertheless, he seems to have become invulnerable after the transfiguration. So he began as less than the essence of God, and ended up as the very essence. It's the only explanation I can think of, but then I'm assured I cannot possibly think as well as an atheist.

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Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 8, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Skeptisma - August 8, 2010 at 6:32 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 8, 2010 at 6:44 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Skeptisma - August 8, 2010 at 7:05 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 8, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 8, 2010 at 11:53 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 9, 2010 at 1:33 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by RAD - August 10, 2010 at 9:57 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 10, 2010 at 10:27 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 11, 2010 at 8:51 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by RAD - August 11, 2010 at 10:00 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 11, 2010 at 11:46 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by theophilus - August 11, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 11, 2010 at 12:48 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by theophilus - August 11, 2010 at 12:52 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by downbeatplumb - August 11, 2010 at 1:06 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 11, 2010 at 1:08 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by DiRNiS - August 9, 2010 at 3:19 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by annatar - August 9, 2010 at 3:52 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Edwardo Piet - August 9, 2010 at 3:54 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by annatar - August 9, 2010 at 6:41 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 9, 2010 at 8:33 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by In This Mind - August 9, 2010 at 3:24 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 9, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 9, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by DiRNiS - August 10, 2010 at 3:13 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 10, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Ashendant - August 10, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 10, 2010 at 6:47 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Ashendant - August 11, 2010 at 5:48 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 11, 2010 at 6:05 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Ashendant - August 11, 2010 at 6:15 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 10, 2010 at 10:52 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by DiRNiS - August 11, 2010 at 9:41 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by AnunZi - August 11, 2010 at 10:58 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 11, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 12, 2010 at 3:22 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 12, 2010 at 11:56 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2010 at 5:58 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 14, 2010 at 12:39 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by solja247 - August 9, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Minimalist - August 11, 2010 at 1:45 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 11, 2010 at 3:43 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by RAD - August 13, 2010 at 12:53 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by AnunZi - August 13, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2010 at 3:47 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 16, 2010 at 2:53 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Captain Scarlet - August 16, 2010 at 9:24 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 16, 2010 at 10:43 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by The Omnissiunt One - August 17, 2010 at 4:09 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 18, 2010 at 11:15 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Ashendant - August 19, 2010 at 6:36 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 19, 2010 at 11:22 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Entropist - August 20, 2010 at 12:40 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 21, 2010 at 1:26 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 1:44 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Godschild - August 21, 2010 at 2:07 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by The Omnissiunt One - August 16, 2010 at 3:55 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2010 at 8:01 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by theVOID - August 16, 2010 at 4:46 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by fr0d0 - August 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Minimalist - August 14, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Edwardo Piet - August 16, 2010 at 4:48 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by theVOID - August 16, 2010 at 4:53 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Edwardo Piet - August 16, 2010 at 4:59 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by theVOID - August 16, 2010 at 5:11 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - August 16, 2010 at 5:24 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by solja247 - August 16, 2010 at 7:04 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2010 at 8:05 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Ashendant - August 16, 2010 at 9:12 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Edwardo Piet - August 17, 2010 at 4:42 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Minimalist - August 17, 2010 at 12:28 pm
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Minimalist - August 19, 2010 at 12:27 am
RE: Logical contradictions? - by Justtristo - November 19, 2010 at 6:34 am

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