A question for Christians who accept evolution.

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DeistPaladin mentioned something that I'd never really thought of before concerning Christianity and evolution.

Essentially, evolution means that there was no Adam & Eve, which means there was no fall, which means there was no need for Jesus.

I'm just wondering how Christian "evolutionists" explain their faith in light of this. What was the point of Jesus if there was no fall? Or, if there was a fall, when (and why) did it happen?

Your premises and conclusions are frigthfully simplistic, involving huge leaps of logic, filled in with assumptions which are really just a kind of blind faith. (Nothing personal, it's rather common among young unseasoned atheists)

There are many forms of "theistic evolution" theory, and that is ALL they are, theories that explain more than classic evolution does actually. Actually Augustine himself proposed that there were just "kinds" in the beginning and suggested evolution himself. I can't prove it but recent genetic evidence shows there was an Adam and Eve, traceable genetically back to about 8-12 K years ago in Africa.

Their was already a creation in my view, which explains where Cain and/or Able got their wives. Genesis contains insightful revelation, but is inaccurate in a literal sense. I have serious doubts a flood covered the whole earth, although there was a pretty massive flood of some sort. I've always had these doubts and I always believed in evolution, as much as there is real evidence for, but both creation and evolutionary theories have serious flaws which the true believers overcome with blind faith on both sides. The theories developed to explain massive gaps are boneheaded, while God-assisted evolution explains them perfectly.

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Do you seriously think that an entity that(hypothetically) has existed for the 13-15 billion years that the universe is aged and congruent with the volume of space that it occupies has any idea that an

insignificant, microscopic speck of carbon such as yourself even exists?

Don't be so bloody arrogant.

Actually this is the best anti-faith argument I have heard yet here. Quite seriously, it's a good question. There does seem to be a lot of narcissism in the church, not to mention your favorite local bar.

But let me ask hypothetically, if it turns out there is a God who loves such dust particles as you and me, and died so you and I could go to heaven, would you want to serve him? If not, why not?

If we believe Paul, he says God does save and uses "the base things". Take me and Paul for example.

Maybe Christians are indeed "base" as you guys claim, and what are you going to do if you find out he loves them all? Honestly, will you repent of your sins and serve Jesus? No? Why not?

BTW how is it so many atheists claim Christians are stupid, base, arrogant, etc and then complain their God is intolerant? You can't have it both ways of course. Maybe you guys should call an ecumenical council of you rown and discuss such contradictions before the faithful notice and get confused.