(August 11, 2010 at 1:41 am)Edward the Theist Wrote: Are you crazy? Seriously, do you even consider the shit you believe? How can matter make itself matter? It is what it is.Did you mean "How can matter make itself meaningful?". If so, I explained that above. Meaning is a subjective neurological phenomenon; our brains fire neurons (matter & energy) and this in turn creates our consciousness, through which we experience meaning, love, etc.
Quote:You have reduced human beings to rocks, and then you say the rocks through an illusion of consciousness make themeselves matter.No I haven't. The differences between rocks and humans are so absurdly big that I don't really understand how you could even think I meant this. The primary difference of course is that *humans are alive*.
Quote:A rock cannot love a rock. A human that is nothing more than matter cannot love another human being, not really.Only if you ignore everything about neurology. Rocks aren't alive; of course they can't love. They can't breathe either, but that doesn't mean that because humans are made of the same things, they can't breathe. Fallacious reasoning.
Quote:Why don't you be honest?Why do you, instead of taking what I say and just responding to it as if it were my belief, feel the need to assume I am in some way being dishonest.
I may lie sometimes in some situations; I'm not perfect. However, one thing I can guarantee is that I will not lie in a debate. So you can stop with the questions about my honesty.
Quote:Why don't you, as an atheist at least admit that love is as big an illusion as God? Is it because you want to appear good? You want to be an atheist, but you are unwilling to be an atheist. You want to be a saint, but saints don't existst among rocks.Love isn't an illusion though; I've experience love. I know love exists as something. Science tells us that love is most probably a neurological reaction, and I have no reason to doubt that hypothesis since nobody has come up with a better one in my view.
I'm not unwilling to be an atheist. You again show a complete lack of understanding of what atheists are. We are people who don't believe in gods. As long as that is true, we can believe anything else. We can believe in spiritual realms, ghosts, etc. It is all irrelevant as long as we don't believe in gods.
