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Self-racism?
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RE: Self-racism?
(February 8, 2015 at 5:06 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Btw, Alex, I heard that many people in Germany are ashamed to sing their national anthem because of its connotations with fascism. Is it true or was it a bunch of boloney?

Possible. Any show of patriotism and flag waving - outside football, where it is the norm - is frowned upon in polite society. This probably includes singing the anthem for some. However, connecting the black red and golden flag and the national anthem to Nazism is silly and ahistorical. The message of the parts of the anthem which are still sung is actually quite nice compared to other anthems. The verses where the old borders are mentioned going through neighboring eastern and western european countries (von der Maas bis an die Memel...), and the virtues of german wenches and wine are praised, is simply not sung any more and that's that as far as I am concerned. The music was written by Haydn of course, and the use as an anthem goes back to the Austrian Emperor.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 8, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by robvalue - February 8, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by vorlon13 - February 8, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Nope - February 8, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Pizza - February 8, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Thumpalumpacus - February 9, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: Self-racism? - by vorlon13 - February 8, 2015 at 4:24 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by IATIA - February 8, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 8, 2015 at 10:39 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 8, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 8, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 1:24 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 8, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Homeless Nutter - February 8, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 8, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Homeless Nutter - February 8, 2015 at 11:16 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Pyrrho - February 8, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by IATIA - February 8, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 8, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 8, 2015 at 11:06 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 8, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Nope - February 9, 2015 at 7:40 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 8:48 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Godschild - February 8, 2015 at 11:57 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by vorlon13 - February 9, 2015 at 12:16 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 1:29 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 1:45 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 1:54 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 3:06 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Self-racism? - by robvalue - February 9, 2015 at 4:51 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 5:00 am
RE: Self-racism? - by robvalue - February 9, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Homeless Nutter - February 9, 2015 at 9:13 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Nope - February 9, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 11:58 am
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Thumpalumpacus - February 9, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by robvalue - February 9, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 9, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 9, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 9, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Homeless Nutter - February 9, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Thumpalumpacus - February 9, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 9, 2015 at 1:50 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Losty - February 9, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: Self-racism? - by Dystopia - February 9, 2015 at 5:24 pm

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